Button- Location: Dover
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...and on the Dover Straits.
(Not my real name.)
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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wet and windy, button.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Have to hand it to this Barnier chap, plenty of "could be" and "more likely" stuff with regard to a free trade deal providing we stump up the 40 million in advance and he knows our team will bite.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/09/07/michel-barnier-concedes-brexit-bill-could-linked-uk-eu-trade/howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Times.
Downing Street has rejected plans to have EU officials at British ports forwarding goods to Ireland, in the latest sign of an impasse on customs. A Brexit deal with Brussels can be struck in less than two months’ time, Michel Barnier, Europe’s chief negotiator said yesterday, as Theresa May sent her ministers on a final drive to sell Chequers to her divided party. However differences still remain on key issues, particularly connected to customs and Northern Ireland. Britain insists that its customs plan removes the need for any checks at all but the EU has rejected the so-called future customs arrangement.
A Downing Street spokesman said: “We believe the solution that we set out in the white paper and at Chequers delivers on the issue of the Northern Ireland border. As the PM has said many times, she is a committed unionist; that’s a key fact in where we’ve ended up.” This comes before an announcement by Brexiteers led by Jacob Rees-Mogg that they could support the move. Yesterday there was optimism on both sides of the Channel when Mr Barnier said that a withdrawal deal was “possible” within six to eight weeks, causing a surge in the pound’s value. With claims yesterday, however, that up to 80 Tory MPs would be prepared to vote down a deal based on the Chequers agreement, Downing Street is to begin a concerted drive to reduce opposition.
The prime minister has instructed every cabinet minister to tour the country before the Conservative Party conference this month to hammer home the message that Chequers is the “only deal” on the table. Each minister has been told to visit at least two constituency associations in the next two weeks to make the case for Mrs May’s strategy and counter the campaign led by Boris Johnson to “chuck Chequers”. Privately, Tory aides working across Whitehall have been briefed by No 10 that Mr Barnier’s position on Chequers has shifted in recent weeks. They have been told to prepare for a vote on a final deal by Christmas, with senior government figures reporting that Tory whips were “very confident” the vote would pass. However, with Mrs May’s working majority standing at 13 and Labour expected to oppose the deal, Brexiteers could scupper the plans.
A Downing Street source said last night that a deal was “eminently doable”, adding that there was a growing realisation in Europe that the negotiations could not be allowed to collapse. “I think there is an acknowledgment on both sides that we have to do a deal,” the source said. “It is not in anyone’s interest for the negotiations to fail and I think that is beginning to concentrate minds.” Another government figure also suggested that some small progress had been made on the most difficult issue of the Northern Ireland border. Mrs May is due to make her case to the EU’s 27 leaders at a summit in Salzburg next Thursday. Afterwards they are expected formally to change the EU’s negotiating mandate to “take account” of Britain’s new proposals. Speaking at a conference in Slovenia before the meeting, Mr Barnier provided an upbeat assessment of the state of negotiations. “I think that if we are realistic we are able to reach an agreement on the first stage of the negotiation, which is the Brexit treaty, within six or eight weeks,” he said.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I can't work out what the PM is up to on this one, there is no point in sending Ministers around the constituencies trying to brow beat them into learning to love the "Chequers" thingy as activists just see it as betrayal. The leading lights in the EU have already laughed it off so if this is the only thing on the table then we are all in big trouble.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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isn't chequers a American name for drafts. H
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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I think the PM is saying to Brussels, if you don't accept Chequers, then I'll be toast and you'll end up with the lunatics from the ERG. Careful what you wish for...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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You may well be right Neil but if I am reading the following from PMQ today correctly the EU will not be interested in her welfare any longer.
Conservative MP Chris Philp asks if payment of Britain's obligations to the EU is dependent on a deal being agreed with Brussels, noting the PM had previously said "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed".
May responds by saying that Britain is a country that abides by its international obligations. Although she notes that if there is a "no-deal" Brexit, "the position changes".
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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All this palaver about roaming charges is time wasting when so few people are affected and hardly a lot of money involved, the issue of border checks in the future is of paramount importance to everybody but doesn't seem to be near the top of the list.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45501007Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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Actually, roaming is important to anyone with a mobile phone who treads the White Cliffs. Up there you're on French soil as far as your mobile company's concerned, and subject to the appropriate charges and restrictions. Thankfully, I always get a cheery 'Welcome to France' text message and a reminder of charges from ee when I'm approaching the Coastguard Station, so I know which country's listening in.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I experience the same in areas of the Western Heights but don't see it as a problem, rather like another shock/horror story from the BBC today that UK driving licences will be not valid in the EU from next March. The simple answer is to go down the post office and buy an international one over the counter for about a fiver.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I now tend to mentally turn off when the media with their biased reporting start on about Brexit as virtually every report is a negative, they never report what those in Europe might miss out on.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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True, they might miss out on those UK drivers who couldn't find their way to a post office without hitting a tree let alone make it to Villeblevin, Motta di Livenza or Guadalajara.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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same story on itv H
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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So, this Brexit scaremongering. Your drivers license may be invalid if you're British but if you're American or Canadian it will be perfectly fine.
When will you ppl waken up and realise how controlling and manipulative the EU and their propaganda machine is?
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'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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Any Brit with a license must have bought it off the internet. They'd be ok with a licence, though.
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Leaving aside the economic consequences, the one thing that will impact us all is that the European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) is almost certainly going to be a thing of the past. That means people will need to get travel insurance to receive medical treatment within the EU - or pay very high fees. Of course, those premiums will rocket post Brexit, and some with pre existing conditions may not get insurance at all.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Stumbled across this website that tells us how wonderful the EU are in spending dosh in each part of our fair land and I can see why our district voted heavily to leave.
https://www.myeu.uk/#/Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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enjoy
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