Weird Granny Slater
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Reginald Barrington wrote:"litigation (a lawsuit) seeks resolution to a dispute between private parties."
That is a very narrow definition.
You can make it as broad as you like, RB, but it still won't be a judicial review.
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Captain Haddock
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JR seems to have become a growth industry playing pragmatic localised decisions by HMG against the usual fantasy concepts of 'human rights innit etc' which we foolishly signed up to, not realising the consequences.
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Reginald Barrington
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:You can make it as broad as you like, RB, but it still won't be a judicial review.
It won't but a judicial review will always be a form of litigation!
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Neil Moors wrote:A JR, as WGS points out, is the act of asking the Court if the Government/Executive has exceeded it's legal powers.
I don't think that's quite what WGS said; she sees a JR as a means of restraint on the power of governments/legislatures (which you could argue is our job), rather than a review of an alleged unreasonable use of powers or of allegedly acting beyond/without them.
As to any growth industry in JRs, perhaps that's fuelled by people who simply dislike the outcome of a decision made, rather than objecting to how it came to be made.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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My 'a means of restraint on the power of government and legislatures' and NM's 'act of asking the Court if the Government/Executive has exceeded it's legal powers': same difference AFAIC. In other words, a mechanism by which the judiciary examines possible government and / or parliament legal overreach.
I've no idea about a 'growth industry'; some data would be nice from anyone alleging it. If there is one, then it might suggest an increasing tendency to abuse of power by government and parliament. The last I remember was the Gina Miller case; and the difference between that and the more recent attempt is that whereas Miller's was all over the media for days on end, Dolan's got barely a mention until it was lost. Kind of shows you where the establishment's at.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Data? Yere tis.
https://fullfact.org/crime/has-there-been-huge-growth-number-judicial-reviews/
Huge increase especially in 'immigration' cases.
'Human rights' V 'Immigration Acts as passed by Parliament.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Overstayer? Illegal? Why not claim to be a Nigerian homosexualist (whatever you real identity or sexual preferences) in fear of persecution back 'home'?
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:The last I remember was the Gina Miller case
Didn't the MMO's Goodwin Sands dredging approval go to JR?
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Neil Moors wrote:With the news today that the virus is more airborne than originally thought, the question of obligating to wear face masks is going to be the next on this list.
Why so, when the government said this just 5 days ago: '
It is important to know that the evidence of the benefit of using a face covering to protect others is weak and the effect is likely to be small'.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5ef2889986650c12970e9b57/working-safely-during-covid-19-close-contact-services-030720.pdf
The reason will be something other than a health reason.
In the face of the relentless push towards compulsory muzzling (the media and Labour both trying to outbid the government with their totalitarian credentials) it's worth repeating that covid-associated deaths peaked on 8 April, meaning that infections peaked before 'lockdown'. The latest NHS death stats:
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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An increase in JR’s is likely to be motivated by a Government exceeding its powers. This particular lot don’t like to consult, much less subject themselves to scrutiny, so it is inevitable.
Recent high profile examples include trying to leave the EU without involving Parliament, and the decision to prorogue Parliament.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Reassuring news about Christmas. Should our pantomimes be cancelled, the Tories' own will be running throughout the season. Roles are currently undecided, however, since daily auditions have resulted in a glut of candidates for the donkey's rear end, as burying your head in the leader's fundament and travelling blind are basic elements of most cabinet members' skill sets.
https://inews.co.uk/news/panto-a-huge-covid-19-transmission-risk-due-to-bubble-soap-throwing-oliver-dowden-warns-484946?ito=twitter_share_article-top'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
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A brighter story ( but one which puts the achievements of our sacred cow the NHS in a slightly different light: my brother-in-law’s father, aged 91, was admitted to WHH six weeks ago after a fall. He was tested negative twice for Covid-19 on arrival and had an emergency hip replacement. Prior to release he was tested again and was found to test positive. He also developed sepsis while in ICU. Later he was diagnosed with pneumonia and when that cleared up he got a further serious chest infection. He’s now on the mend and has demanded a set of the latest B&O noise-cancelling headphones so he can listen to his music without the noise from his fellow inmates.
Yes he survived and is now in good spirits but it’s more to do with his immune system than the ministrations of our NHS.
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Well worth clapping for!
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And which bit is not to like? BBC News - Chancellor Rishi Sunak cuts VAT in emergency plan to save jobs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53268594"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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I hired out a small cottage to a builder and his family once. They seemed nice. After a few days he phoned me; there were some blowflies, he said. I said, yeah we get a few every season; they come through the roof void; just open the door and they'll fly away. OK, he said. When he handed in the keys (it's local) he said everything was fine. OK, I said. When I checked I saw he'd completely trashed the place: all the walls in piles of bricks, furniture spread around. But he'd built a small shed out of some damaged roof timbers and corrugated plastic from the car port. I was very appreciative; he'd even trapped a few blowflies in a jam jar. I returned his deposit, with half as much again in interest. Really, which bit's not to like?
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you see im starting to think this is the natures way of reducing the population -some thing like natural selection. and the governments know about it. i mean they know earth is over populated and maybe they are trying to do nothing so that nature will do its thing.....
this was my personal idea and it may be -and probably is- wrong
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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likfeoffice wrote:...this was my personal idea and it may be -and probably is- wrong
Correct! Never mind; better luck next time.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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The latest from the lengthening queue for the donkey's rear-end...
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