Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
- Posts: 2,095
Designated areas, isolated from other non smoking public and banned everywhere else is the answer.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
- Posts: 2,096
If that Morrison's smokers paradise really has three sides and a roof, it's illegal to smoke in there.
So why do they all gather around the entrance? I can never get into Morrisons without traipsing through a cloud of stinking and aggravating smoke. It is the smokers responsibility to be courteous and not behave anti-socially.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
bern,is that the genral public or the shop staff you are talking about.
ray.i think you might find it legal the way it's set up.
Brian, it is all smokers.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
ok.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
Moaning.
Don't you just hate it? Wherever you go, there is no getting away from it.
Smokers do it.
Non smokers do it.
Drunks do it.
The sober do it.
Drivers, while driving do it and when they park-up everybody that has to negotiate around the car does it.
But, at least moaning can be a social event. It is often done standing up, when there is not a seat to be had. Where would the joy of queueing be if not for the ripple and re-ripple of a moan or two passing amongst those in line?
Where would we be without it? Yet, where does it get us?
Staying alive, huh-huh-huh, staying alive. [more correctly whining]
Singing the song didn't do it for Robin Gibb, who has passed away Immortality or Islands in the stream?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/may/20/robin-gibb?intcmp=122
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee_Gees#Soundtrack_releases
And he never saw 64.
Life is for living. When we are each and all gone will our song be sung?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 2,262
It's so disgusting to read about the behaviour of these drunks and druggies in the Market Square, and so awful that the rest of us have to endure it, not to mention our children and tourists to Dover. This is the very place that the cruise passengers are dropped off by bus. Surely something has to done by those in authority. The suggestion that it is a life style choice is completely ludicrous and unacceptable. It has to be stopped
Hear hear!
Guest 717- Registered: 16 Jun 2011
- Posts: 468
I have read through the comments and some of you raise some valid points. The question you seem to be missing is what do you do with someone who won't accept the help offered. Give them an exclusion zone so they then move to your neighbourhood? Send them to a cell overnight to give them exactly what they want, a bed and a meal? I think the problem is not only the police's but society in general. Which one of you would sit with these people, talk the them, and try and help them? what does society do when they won't accept your help? Where do they go then? Drugs and alcohol are an addiction, once you've crossed that line it's not easy to turn back. Don't forget these people may once have been like us but something happened to make them this way. Im not saying its right to have to put up with it, just have a little more compassion.
Keeps politics to myself
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
I object to the following - but tolerate it (on the whole as these things are legal and a choice...)
1. The smell of alcohol on peoples breath
2. The smell of meat
3. People farting
4. The smell of undercooked garlic on peoples breath
5. the smell of stale sweat
6. All perfumes and aftershaves
7. The smell of peoples feet when they wear trainers, canvas or plastic shoes
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
As for the day drinkers, why dont we find them a space where they can exercise their choice whilst we get to enjoy ours?
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
Ross, I did suggest the Police Yard with its lovely view of the Dour.
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
Your Government is listening...
One, Vicki Helyar-Cardwell makes some valid points, but I would say that...
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-forced-act-anti-social-behaviour-014912664.htmlIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
The kind of behaviour we see from some of the young and older members of the town is not acceptable I think we all agree on that. Until the police act to stop the drunks and druggies from to put it mildly annoying visitors and residents nothing will improve.
I am fed up with the excuse that all this is because youth clubs etc are being closed that is a red herring there were no youth clubs when I was growing up yet there was not the same amount of vandalism or anti social behaviour we see nowadays. For some reason for about the last twenty years some people seem to think they can do as they like in public. A woman would be ashamed to be seen drunk in the streets even late at night, if eating in the open air we would sit down never walk along eating and then just throw the packaging away.
Times have changed but not always for the better, moan over.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
I've had an email from Nigel in response to my email to him and others at DDC and the Police, saying that there is an alcohol exclusion zone in the Town Centre and the new Town Sargeant is taking a zero-tolerance attitide, so hope things will improve.
Roger
Thank you Roger and of course Nigel , did they say when this exclusion zone came into force l ?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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The legislation concerning alcohol exclusion zones is not what it seems. Drinking in the market square isn't an offence, it's only continuing to do so after being ordered to stop by a police officer in uniform that is an offence.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
If there is an alcohol exclusion zone, then no drinking should take place.
Not sure on the enforcement side Sarah, but will endeavour to find out.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
peter is right, in effect they can put their cans down and start again when the officer has moved on.