Guest 706- Registered: 25 Oct 2010
- Posts: 285
It's lunchtime. One of the benches in the market square is occupied by various drunks and drug addicts. One of them so inebriated that he urinates where he sits.The community police officers see it and somehow a bowl of water is produced,maybe from the bank, and the pavement sweeper is called to sweep the puddle up. One of the officers then proceeds to pick up their empties and put them in the bin. Meanwhile the other officer engages in small talk about drug prescriptions and appears to engage in the conversation as though they are all best mates.
If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I would never have believed it!
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
That is disgusting.
It really is time to find an out of the way area where they can not be seen or annoy anyone, maybe a deep hole with no escape or the Goodwin Sands.
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Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
- Posts: 2,119
I'm on a deep deep negative this week people, I think I'll refrain from answering to this one.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
as summer sets in the public urination problem will get steadily worse from the usual culprits.
we cannot blame the various councils for closing down the bogs as when they were all open our daytime drinkers felt the need to use a public place.
on monday afternoon one was using the entrance to the flats in market square to relieve himself whilst his companion vomited next to him with the dexterity not to drop his can whilst doing so.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
- Posts: 2,438
The whole law enforcement issue is running out of control, hands are tied as to how drunks are dealt with. It will only get worse as the cuts to the Police bite deeper and deeper. The Police service did not march in London last week for no good reason.
Audere est facere.
They were not managing the problem before, though.
Guest 719- Registered: 11 Jul 2011
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Yorkshire Born And Yorkshire Bred
Guest 708- Registered: 22 Dec 2010
- Posts: 102
Those people you make these laws on drunks, would they like it happening on their doorsteps.
Guest 688- Registered: 16 Jul 2009
- Posts: 268
I was informed,face to face,by a senior police officer that this was a 'life style choice' and so it was hard for the authorities to meaningfully deter these individual's
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
armed robbers make a lifestyle choice too, by extension this must mean that they cannot be prosecuted.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
Very true Howard and what a cop out by the senior officer, sorry for the pun.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
I wonder if that was the same senior policeman who told an Eythorne parish council meeting that doubling the size of our beat bobby's patch, to include Adisham, Aylesham, Ratling and Snowdown, was in the best interests of council tax payers and residents.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
- Posts: 2,095
Howard.
Sorry, but I totally disagree with:-
"we cannot blame the various councils for closing down the bogs as when they were all open our daytime drinkers felt the need to use a public place"
If that was ever the reason and I am not convinced of that, shutting things down, removing things or not improving things because of a few drunks, is just plain wrong.
Keep things open, make improvements and sort out the drunks problem.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
- Posts: 2,095
Drunken youths are given a 24hour town exclusion notice, if they misbehave. Why not implement that strategy?
I know this would only prove to move them around but if the exclusion zone is wide enough, then at least the town would not suffer.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
How about making them welcome in the police yard, after all it is a very nice setting beside the river and certainly in the middle of town which they all seem to like.
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I was told the same nonsense about it being a lifestyle choice by a Sergeant , strangely enough they retracted the statement when I used a counter argument that was based in a mix of knowlege of the Law and substance abuse work .
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
Peter post 12
are these areas not Dover district council tax payers then ?
I wonder if that was the same senior policeman who told an Eythorne parish council meeting that doubling the size of our beat bobby's patch, to include Adisham, Aylesham, Ratling and Snowdown, was in the best interests of council tax payers and residents.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
And your point Keith?
Watty
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Should the bobbies not patrol all arias that the local taxpayers are paying for .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
their activities are not district council based, their dosh comes from kent county council.
