Keith Sansum1
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Alexander;
Back in the real world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
As much as I would love you to be correct, in reality it just wont happen.
What hasnt been taken into account, and was mentioned in the new statesmen you quote was those tories that will return to the tory fold at a general election.
Of course I may have mentioned before it doesnt matter to you anyway, as you couldnt bother to even vote for UKIP who with yours and others not voting secured labour winning both seats in Dover town.
I still believe many die hard tories who protest voted in local elections wont do so at a general election.
Of course the mouse has serious problems. and unlike maggie who had clear direction, the mouse is struggling to decide which way to go
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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The number-crunchers in both Tory and UKIP HQs will soon realise that DC's only chance of staying in power (and Farage's only hope of ever gaining any) will be to form an electoral pact prior to the next election, fielding only a single candidate in each constituency. Then we would probably get a more stable coalition with a thumping majority, marginalising Labour and kicking the GlibDems totally into touch.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Farage won't do a deal with Cameron though Peter
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Once UKIP overtake the Conservatives in the polls, Peter, the latter will collapse like a pack of cards.
There is no talk of an electoral pact, and never has been, in either party.
Adding to that, David Cameron has not and will not obtain any repatriation of powers from Brussels, making his position untenable.
The EU cannot repatriate powers to any member state without falling apart.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think we would find that dave would do a deal if necessary, nigel certainly would if he was offered a prominent ministerial post.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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farrage has not dismissed the idea of a pact, in fact he said if they get rid of the mouse he WOULD go for a pact
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Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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They are politicians, if it is expedient and they think that it gets/keeps them in power then they'll do a deal.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Neil
I dont dispute that, but where its wrong is that they were elected to oppose those in govt,
the lib dems will find to there cost
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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farage is the wiliest politician of them all, one way or another he will have a ministerial position in 2 years time.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Where do you think he'll stand Howard?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i would think the blues would offer him a safe seat as part of the deal david.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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If he sells his soul it will be just another lib dem episode and very short lived
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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UKIP will not do a deal with the Conservative party, and there will be no election pact either.
If UKIP did, their party would be destroyed.
It is a matter of weeks before UKIP overtake the Tories, and then these will disappear from the equation.
The Tory party will be no more!
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Farage is a politician - same as the rest, he's proved it by his EU track record. No different to an awful lot of other politicians of all shades. He'll do a deal if it suits his agenda.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Alexander
without doubt the 2 main parties will always be around.
Its UKIP that will have to look at where they will be in 2 years.
protest party??? one policy party????
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Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Hi Keith, my earlier remark wasn't a comment on the morality of acting to suit one's own agenda, we all do so from time to time, just an observation that as a populist politician a deal is exactly what he and most other top politicians will do if they think it'll get/keep them in power.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alex
if ukip and the blues do not come to some arrangement the reds will comfortably return to power, something you always say you don't want.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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It's too late, Howard.
I won't ever support the Conservative party in any way, they have gone too far, and Gov. broke the House rules.
UKIP would be foolish to make a pact with the Tories.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Howard you hit the nail on the head there, exactly my point in post 3.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
