ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Keith Sansum1
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Looks like much more of this to come
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Button
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#81 "Here’s the queues into dover : who’d have thought having to process export docs at the border would create such delays ...."
Tsk, tsk Mr Hutstone, always with the Project Fear!
Seriously? Just about everyone I should think, but think of all those lovely jobs created...
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Very droll!
Let me just point out that it was the driver who posted the clip that said that, not me. As for jobs, well, I'll never say a bad word about red tape or Brussels bureaucrats again.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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It can only get better ?
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Button- Location: Dover
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I'm just not understanding "It comes as port chiefs urged the UK government to hold talks with the EU on ways to ease further checks set to come in later in 2022 which could cause “disastrous” disruption to trade"; those further checks are surely UK ones on food coming
into the UK - so why would the EU care if we beat ourselves up? As for the current queues on outbound traffic, I'm assuming these are also due to new UK border checks (wholly misplaced in my view) on exports. Job creation scheme, or self harm on an industrial scale?
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Button- Location: Dover
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Button wrote:As for the current queues on outbound traffic, I'm assuming these are also due to new UK border checks (wholly misplaced in my view) on exports. Job creation scheme, or self harm on an industrial scale?
Or simply refit season?
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Button- Location: Dover
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Button wrote:I'm just not understanding "It comes as port chiefs urged the UK government to hold talks with the EU on ways to ease further checks set to come in later in 2022 which could cause “disastrous” disruption to trade"; those further checks are surely UK ones on food coming into the UK - so why would the EU care if we beat ourselves up?
Button, you ass, that'll be the EU checks on outbound people! Must have had a prolonged senior moment! Best to ignore my post 87 completely, whilst I stand in the naughty corner with my dunce's cap on!
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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All the new trade agreements we have are just 'cut and paste' from our previous arrangements through membership of the single market, with the exception of Australia. The issue is (as I understand it) that we now have to adopt WTO rules in our dealings with other countries with which we have no specific trade agreement.
In short, we cannot be seen to favour our handling of trade with the EU over the Americas, Indias, Brazil whatever. Such are the obligations of world trade in the 21st century. The movement of people is a separate issue.
I get conflicting feedback from a lot of my old contacts so am happy to stand corrected if I've got things wrong.
How I Wrote Elastic Man- Registered: 5 Dec 2020
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Delays ?!?
Paperwork ?
This can´t be. I remember reading that the ports were ready years ago, and all the documents would be digitized. Drivers would turn up at the port and drive on through, with a uniformed official giving them a smile and a cheery wave
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Here's why. I'm old enough to remember the Thomas Crown Affair.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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It sounds like this will be everyday or most days
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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I am almost speechless. How hard can it be to understand that if you impose barriers to trade then trade will be disrupted. They walk among us.
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:It sounds like this will be everyday or most days
No queues to get into the Port of Dover this morning, according to National Highways.
Dover TAP - the system used to queue lorries waiting to get into the Port - has been used 12 times so far this month. It was used a similar number of times in November. It's not currently in operation.
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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Amazing that a councillor for Whitfield is complaining about Dover TAP. He should come to Aycliffe the forgotten part of Dover and see how it effects the residents.
We have had to put up with lorry horns and pollutIon…
Hang on Whitfield is more important…..
Button- Location: Dover
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Button- Location: Dover
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Gary39 wrote:Amazing that a councillor for Whitfield is complaining about Dover TAP.
To be fair, he's probably worried about the effect on the fast bus thingy. Whether he'll be able to catch it to the White Horse, that sort of thing.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:No queues to get into the Port of Dover this morning, according to National Highways.
Dover TAP - the system used to queue lorries waiting to get into the Port - has been used 12 times so far this month. It was used a similar number of times in November. It's not currently in operation.
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Whoopeee! Let's all celebrate. It's a usual monday at the end of January. Everything's going to be hunky-dory folks! I love to hear from the cross channel experts.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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