Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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7 November 2010
12:1378916Sorry I did not make myself clear on that Barry,I was on about the developer not the D.D.C. hope that is better to understand now, My head in in front of my hands ,
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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7 November 2010
13:0678920I think you will find there are elections sooner than you think .
7 November 2010
13:1078921Vic, it would appear that life in the UKIP is not all sweetness and light with one of the MEPs taking the UKIP to the High Court claiming she has been discriminated against as she is a lesbian.
She is apparently especially miffed by having the whip withdrawn from her!
http://news.pinknews.co.uk/2010/11/05/lesbian-mep-accuses-ukip-of-homophobia/howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 November 2010
13:2778923she will lose her case then, reading that article ukip have only asked her to ally herself with with the grouping that all other ukip meps are with.
she is not even claiming that the other parties in the group are homophobic, only that some individuals held those views.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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7 November 2010
13:2778924Peter, you don't know me,but if you did you would know that I don't take orders very well and I am a Labour Councillor! We do not take orders from Coombe Valley or the Labour Party H.Q. We do have meetings before a Full Council meeting,as do the Tories,where we all have an input,we talk and argue about any decision,then we take a vote and we vote on our and the people in our wards feel about the subject.
I am in my ward working alot of the time,but people because they know me will stop me down the Town or at work and tell me what they think,I listen and then put the points over to my collegues at group meetings,as they also listen to their people,so the debates are not always heated.I am a third generation Labour Supporter so I don't have to think to hard about Labour Principles I was born and bred with them,I may not always agree with Labour when they were in power,but find myself very rarely agreeing with the current lot.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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7 November 2010
15:3478938No John, we don't know each other but there are several people whom I know well who say you are a good honest councillor and that is good enough for me.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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7 November 2010
15:5178939Well said john
maybe they will believe you
iv bbeen saying the same for years
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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7 November 2010
16:0878942I also believe in Trade Union ideals, and Old Labour used to represent these, but nothing of that to be found in Blair's New Labour disaster. UKIP represents the propoer ideals of work rights.
As for the Whitfield urbanisation plans, I have been informed from Whitfield that many people there are hoping, yes hoping that the economic crisis will prevent many of the planned houses from being built!
This should go down well in the coming May Elections, what DDC planning has brought it to!
That many people hope that the economic crisis in Britain goes on so that their home village is preserved from DDC development.
Well done folks at DDC! A faint-hearted cheer!
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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7 November 2010
16:1578946Peter I have been in Blakes a few times.We don't all seek publicity,just get on and do a job
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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7 November 2010
16:2478951Can someone correct me if I am wrong, surely it was the last government who set the bar of increased housing development in Dover District and the it was the local councillors of all parties who sought to lower that bar.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 November 2010
16:2878953that is my understanding ken, in one way it helped dover district beacuse it made us have growth point status.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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7 November 2010
16:2978954You are right, Mr. Tranter, it was the last government, the one which got voted out. As for the councillors, today they are not following the present reality, but are still building sand-castles in the sky on old economic visions, as if all the spending cuts announced by today's Gov. concerned another planet!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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7 November 2010
16:3378956Ken
Doesn't realy matter who started it all thats playground stuff lol
If we get into that Mr Watkins wanted the highest possble figure of more build
which is his belief
Wonder who will get there way?
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Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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7 November 2010
16:4678962Keith how can apportioning responsibility for past decisions be classed as ''playground stuff''? You try to detract from an unpopular decision by lowering the tone of the debate and then have us believe you have an insight into Paul Watkin's private thoughts.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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7 November 2010
17:0478967Ken
You are incorrect paulw has publicly said he supports this house building
and has reasons for doing so.
I may not share those views but they are there never the less
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
7 November 2010
18:4978982Whether I think this is good or bad is irrelevant as the truth is that the planning inspectorate have approved the proposal
The people of Dover have an opportunity through the consultation process to have input into the look and feel and possibly some of the structure of the proposed development.
Having said all of that economic forces over the life of the planning consent (20 years) will be what dictates how many houses are built, when etc. It may be that it makes no sense for a developer to build the maximum numbers permissible under the consent and we will then have less houses, it may be that economically Dover takes off and the build is accelerated. Frankly at the moment who knows.
The only thing that is clear and cannot be changed is that the planning consent has been approved.
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 November 2010
19:0978991maybe you could explain that to our honourable member ross, he seems determined to make it seem that it can be stopped.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 November 2010
21:4179009Saying he is against it is not the same as saying he thinks he can get it stopped.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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7 November 2010
22:0579012Well the good thing to come out of this that the blues can not agree with each other,so it is no wonder we can not get the town sorted out. they need to get it right before next year when we go to the polls,good thing there are other partys standing to give the public a choice.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 November 2010
22:2079014ok barry you are right there, but giving the impression that it can be stopped is misleading.
i suspect that charlie is playing a game of semantics on this one.
