Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Some People see things differently Christine, this is a forum of different thinking views
I don't see the British as lazy, some are. most are not.
Lots of British people work hard for not much money, a Patten that's got worse since the EU invasion
ChristineYou say The UK, could not function with the Brits running the country by themselves.
British History tells us differently
you should not be so acid to other peoples views it is what you should expect on a forum
Guest 776- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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Thank you Keith #60
No problem
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we can change our gender but not our personality as you know christine.
Guest 776- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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"ChristineYou say The UK, could not function with the Brits running the country by themselves.
British History tells us differently"#61
.Keith Bibby
Could you, please, explain and illustrate the above comment?
Thank You.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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54, Alex, the Queen is head of state. The Sovereign, as in sovereignty.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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And so who signed, Peter, the Lisbon Treaty?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Christine, you should take into consideration that the "head of state" is the head of the whole commonwealth, from India and Bangladesh to Malaysia and half of Africa, as well an England and Australia.
In the eyes of the Palace, the world is a tiny global village, we're all in it together, and they are on top!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#66, Gordon Brown, please read earlier post.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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From BBC News 17 July 2008
UK ratifies the EU Lisbon Treaty
Royal approval
The "instruments of ratification" were signed by the Queen and Foreign Secretary David Miliband before being deposited in Rome.
These documents are on chlorine-free paper, designed not to deteriorate over time.
They were then sealed and bound in blue leather before being lodged in Rome.
No matter how one twists and turns it, Peter, the evidence is there on chlorine-free paper.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The Lisbon Treaty could only become effective if ratified by each member state. It HAD to be ratified first, not just signed.
This ratification had to have, by British Law, royal assent, else it could never have become effective.
Only one person at that time could give such assent.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Alexander - learn about the British constitution. Once again you go off on a tangent built on your own imagination. Gordon Brown signed the Lisbon Treaty and HMQ gives Rpyal Assent. Under a constitutional monarchy HMQ acts on the advice of her government, not to do so would be a serious constitutional crisis. She can only advise and counsel.
Christine. The British are not lazy, far from it. But, we do have an appalling benefits system that rewards lazy people and enables them to sit on their backsides and an educational system destroyed by left wing political correctness. We need to deal with these matters and not allow free immigration to this country.
Guest 744- Registered: 20 Mar 2012
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Barry
What an ignorant statement from Christine Worsley. Neither I nor any of my friends and family are lazy.
Jan Higgins
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This amalgam of long past immigrants that we now call the British are by no means lazy, we are astute in letting others do the work that we no longer out of choice would choose to do, possibly because the pay is not very high and benefits are available. As long as cheap labour comes from abroad using dubious gang masters nothing will change.
The equation is simple, this country has too many people for too few jobs, yet those from the EU are allowed by law to continue streaming into the country in high numbers. No wonder there is resentment.
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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It can'r be any more straightforward Jan, there are already too many people here, letting more in is madness
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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And many in Brussels want to admit Turkey.........with a further 3m unemployed.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we have a serious problem with over population and recent and current governments think the answer is to build more houses.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have worked in Germany and france,And the British worker was the only ones that would work at weekends and do overtime,and only take 30mins to have a meal.in france it was two hrs 30mins and no less then 1hour in Germany,we was told if you want the job done ,then get the British worker to do it,and we did.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Barry. ratification of the Lisbon Treaty, under democratic principles, would have required a democratic referendum in Britain.
Without ratification, the Prime Minister's signature would have been worthless.
Instead, the ratification came from the head of state.
So we are robbed of democratic decisions regarding the renouncement of British Sovereignty, where-as the Constitution of Britain requires that our Sovereignty may never be handed over to a foreign king, prince, leader or parliament.
End of!
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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What I fail to understand is that in the 40-odd years since Grocer Heath took us into the "EEC" - please note - the argument as to whether we should be a member of the "EU" - please take note again - has not diminished, in fact it seems to have become more heated than ever. Why, therefore, have successive Tory and Labour Governments promised us referendum after referendum and then reneged on that promise every time?
I believe it's in the hope that somewhere the British dogma of refusing to play ball with Johnny Foreigner will be vanquished by ignoring the issue and hoping it will go away. Clearly that isn't going to happen and, for better or worse, it's surely time to let the British people decide exactly what is to happen henceforth. Time to grasp the nettle, methinks.
True friends stab you in the front.
Brian Dixon
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why not have a referendum on having a referendum.