Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#61
The article is out of touch, as it wrongly deduces that shop closures are due to online shopping.
For decades people have been purchasing through magazines or door to door sales.
Online shopping only replaces these, not the actual shops.
Shops close because people are running out of money; they are being replaced with charity shops and pound shops, and now with food banks.
Food parcels will gradually replace benefits and then pensions, and cardboard boxes will replace houses.
Eventually we will be replaced, and disappear.
Or perhaps not.
Keith Sansum1
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#62
human race will go on
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#63
the high street faces many challenges and has to reinvent itself with many current retail units having a change of use.
dover's will survive because it has a mix that caters for the general population, whether we like charity shops, betting offices, cafes or not.
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#64
it will im sure survive
we still have to decide where it starts/finishes
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#65
agreed keith it will have to be condensed to survive, i suspect many current outlets in london road will revert to housing some time in the future.
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#66
thats true howard
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#67
Perhaps we have forgotten to mention the empty shops: they too are shops, not!
We're headed in a downward spiral owing to financial meltdown.
High Street has lost touch with reality, importing almost everything they can from the Tiny Global Village.
The economy has been programmed to turn the lights out.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#68
and then back on the reality plane on where we think the town centre should be
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Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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#69
The days of prospering small retail shops in High Streets seems to be over, and we can't do anything about changing attitudes about shopping in Supermarkets or on line, but the High Street can be a centre for the community - meeting places, restaurants, offices, things you don't get in supermarkets. It is just a case of changing our attitudes. And more of the empty rooms over shops etc. can be used for extra housing which it appears is badly needed, to save greenfield sites being continually used.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#70
exactly my point kath, i would add micro pubs to your list.
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#71
I can't make heads or tails of Keith's post: the town centre is where it stands.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#72
Some have suggested the town centre should stretch to london road
this isn't possible, nor would it survive
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#73
We will have to think on different lines, to fill the properties.
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#74
Sign of the times?.....Privatised planning !!!!!!!!!!!!.......can you imagine the scenes behind closed doors?
Capita set to run council's planning services
Barnet Council officers have recommended Capita as the preferred bidder to join the council in a joint
venture to deliver development and regulatory services in the north London borough.
Under this proposed deal Capita's property and infrastructure business will become the local authority's
partner in providing planning and development services, as well as other regulatory functions like
building control. The proposal will be put to the council's cabinet on June 24.
The new joint venture will provide savings to the council of £39m over current costs on a contract worth
£154m over 10 years, the council said in a statement. The business will be based in Barnet and will
keep staffing at broadly the current level...............
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#75
how will that affect locals?
watch this space
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#76
this report suggests that town centre decline is slowing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26107287Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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#77
With the ever increasing population, people will be having to live in empty shop and business properties (as they once did !)
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#78
Hope the decline is slowing Howard. It would be interesting to know if those that are declining slower, or doing quite well, have a Town Centre Manager/Town Team Manager/Business Support Manager, or not.
Roger
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#79
I may be reinventing the wheel here as I must admit I have not read thro' this complete thread.
I feel that shopping malls offer a more convinient way for people to shop, often with free parking. The High Street should be for specialist shops and "buisness" centres, i.e. Solictors, Insurance and Banking Services. Most foreign cities are zoned, the town centres offer cafe culture and tourism, anything to encourage the visitor to stay and spend! This does not mean that town centres die, more that they are focused on the best way to keep them abreast of current shopping trends.
Themed markets are great, local events publisised, clean streets and our beautiful views should be encouragment enough for both visitors and residents.
Just a few of my thoughts.
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#80
I agree Lesley - evolving Town Centres is what needs to happen, but this won't happen on its own, it needs someone to help drive it.
Also changes in rates and realistic rents.
Roger