The future of town centres
- 6 May 2012 08:32170550Did I say that Keith ?
There's too much tickling around the edges to make a real difference. Someone, or maybe everyone, is ignoring the obvious.
Roger - Keith Sansum1
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6 May 2012 08:47170558im sure roger mr iverson wouldnt agree
but i do agree when continue to visit other places they do it so much better
must dover has to become more of a can do townALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 6 May 2012 11:23170627Jon is a Council employee and works on council initiatives and helps WCCTA. The 3 Tourism Strategies that have been written for Dover - the latest being in 2009 and written by Britton McGrath have never been adopted, I don't know why (I didn't even know that they had been commissioned, but I don't have to be told I guess), maybe they were too complex or too expensive to implement.
The one I have written and is out for consultation is simpler - in that it is less complex than the others, but nontheless is a comprehensive strategy.
Can-do, Can-do ? More like NO can-do !
I am out of the Town Team loop, so maybe they are setting up a Town-Team Manager and I am just out of touch, in which case ignore all the above.
Roger - Keith Sansum1
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6 May 2012 11:40170637roger;
as you say your probably out of the loop
but not out of the viewpoint that a lot of dovorians are saying
its whether or not the agencies grasp the nettleALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 6 May 2012 14:35170663Roger , I havnt been able to access my email to reply to you re your documents you sent me , they look really good , thank you
- 6 May 2012 14:59170664I agree. There is nothing with which to disagree in there!
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6 May 2012 16:35170683wonder if dover will wake upALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 6 May 2012 20:35170736I doubt it.
Roger - Keith Sansum1
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6 May 2012 20:39170737and as a leading light roger
thats sadALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 6 May 2012 20:48170746Whether you think I am a leading light or not Keith, I have no influence over the Town Council or the Town Team, so I'm not wasting my breath any more (Hurrah I here you say).
Roger - Keith Sansum1
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6 May 2012 20:51170747roger;
as your fully aware the town council has little influence over the town centre
theres a lot more agencies involved including the county and district councils to name but a few.
as a member of the administration at DDC you are a leading light.
and you have a lot to offer.
but sadly we see the demise of the town centre.
as a dovorian i find it very sadALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 6 May 2012 20:52170748someone has to stick up for the people roger.
an elitist secret society that just sends out statements is not good enough. - 6 May 2012 20:53170751Agreed, and some! Mavericks and the fearless are essential to a towns development. Don't listen! Keep it up Roger!
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6 May 2012 20:56170756please bern no sex on here lol
wrong thread lol
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 6 May 2012 20:57170758
- 7 May 2012 07:07170772The Town and District Councils have certain responsibilities it is true and section 215s is one thing DDC can work on and are doing just that. They are also of course the LPA and their Planning Officers have been very good in their judgements and the Regeneration Manager works tirelessly.
The Town Council come up with ideas about what they want to do and then decide which ones they'll be involved in and are helping with funding for the 215s, the new fountain (but I'd like that to stay and be able to be funded for the forseeable future) and of course the move of the VIC to the Museum. They are also facilitating the Town Team meetings and as far as I am aware, the, Town Clerk, The Mayor (if not on a previous engagement) and Sue Jones are in attendance too.
The Town Team have chosen who is in and who is not and I am not, so I am not in the loop and not interfering and so cannot offer any information on what is happening.
I appreciate it is like a broken record, but unless, or until, a Town-Team Manager is appointed (and funded), it IS tickling around the edges; there are many things that such a manager could be doing - talking to businesses for one thing, gaining their trust and support; also moving the Town forward on a whole range of initiatives, including Tourism and turning Dover into a destination with Group Travel.
Lots of bodies and people to talk to.
I cannot be involved in any of the above anymore, apart from the District Council part. It's not so much a complaint as a statement.
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7 May 2012 08:39170794maybe they are telling you something roger??ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 7 May 2012 09:56170811"Sold down the Derwent
SIR - The ink was hardly dry on the National Planning Policy Framework, published in March, when, after finessing the normal planning arguments in its favour, Ryedale's planning committee did exactly what we feared it would - and gave permission for a superstore on the council's own land in Malton, North Yorkshire.
For the £5 million it will thereby make from the site, this elected body has decided to sell the people and independent traders of Malton down the Derwent river.
Every single poll of public opinion has been against this decision by a factor of four to one. Each has also made it clear that people are deeply disturbed by the planning authority ruling in a case where it has a clear vested interest. A petition to Eric Pickles, the Communities Secretary, was signed by 2,000.
The town council, the chamber of trade, the neighbourhood plan consultation group - all stand aghast at a decision that makes a mockery of localism.
We are not against change in our back yard. Most opponents of the superstore favour an alternative regeneration project that offers economic and employment gains without destroying the town's character or the livelihoods of its numerous small retailers. This is in accord with the NPPF. But it has been turned down at the same Ryedale planning committee.
If this policy is not to fall at the first hurdle, Mr Pickles must call this matter in for objective review. To allow it to stand is undemocratic and will cause irreversible damage to the retail diversity of a treasured market town.
It will encourage large supermarket predators to believe that the National Planning Policy Framework policies have no weight and to bully their way into smaller towns, impoverishing their high streets.
To fail to act would be, to quote Mary Portas, to sacrifice community for convenience.
Martin Arnold
Otley [& about 50 others]
From today's Telegraph...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/9249205/Local-election-boost-for-Labour-under-Ed-Miliband-will-soon-evaporate.htmlIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - Keith Sansum1
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7 May 2012 11:44170825oh dear
what are we to face in the futureALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 7 May 2012 12:05170832Whatever we allow to happen, Keith.