Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Why not?
No private landlords want 'affordable' housing. They know they'll get tenants who will treat their property like a pigsty.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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That is an unfair sweeping statement Peter, many of those on Housing Benefit or not earning much money treat their homes like palaces.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry but this has gone to far now unless we get back to how it started count me out of it.
I do not think anyway there is anymore to say about it.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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The phase 1A site will contain affordable housing but probably not built by this builder. Affordable housing is not all social housing but can & often does contain elements of shared ownership schemes, which are very popular. It depends on the promoter.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thank you Mr Watkins .
Well there you have it from the man himself.
Shared ownership has been done in Sanctuary close where I am, years ago and no one moved out yet so it must work.
And must say it is great living here we all get on well with each other and the homes and gardens are all very nice as I said before both my wife and myself feel very lucky to live here.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#61, true. But I speak from personal experiences of friends and family. While most DSS tenants may be houseproud, there are many who are totally feckless.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Than action should be taken to remove them as we see in some cases.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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We let our house in Canterbury while we were abroad in 1982. The tenants were 3 months behind with their rent before we got them out. Their security deposit was one month's rent (£600) and the dilapidations cost £4,500 to repair. They had fooled the agents into thinking they were employed but it turned out they were on benefits. After that we only ever did company lets.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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One, anecdotal case Peter.
Jan Higgins
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When we first had the pub we let our house and had two different tenants both on Social Security who were house proud, the only very minor complaint we had was one did not keep the garden quite up to standard.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Once bitten, twice shy. Our youngest son has also had an investment property in Swindon trashed by a single parent on benefits.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/Whitfield.Dover/10153008792523797/?notif_t=group_activity
Feelings in Whitfield are running high. It's not just me who feels this way...
I despair of the English - so squeamish and pathetic about curbing immigration and this is the consequence. Or a very very small part of it. A Saxon village turned into a mini Milton Keynes.
Doesn't the environment matter any more? Have we just given up on our country? This is heartbreaking.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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strangly enough Andrew they built houses and a small industrial site on the old gas works site.jewsons and a few other small units off coombe vally road and houses of bunkers hill road.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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You are spot on Andrew. Brown field sites are everywhere yet we insist on concreting over fields.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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it is sad when any of our countryside is lost, it never reverts in the future.
unfortunately the problems are a) a population getting out of control and b) developers not being interested in brown field sites.
a prime example as I have said before is the site in Malvern road that has been available for more years than I remember, 5 minutes walk from the hs1 and another 5 minutes from the town centre.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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Peter is right - it is no fun being a landlord, you do everything necessary to make the property good and sound, and a lot of them treat the property as they would rubbish, because it is not theirs - my grandmother had a tenant who chopped up the floor for firewood (grandma had to put in a concrete floor which cost a lot of money years ago)! With controlled tenancies you could not get bad tenants out.
I agree not all tenants are like that, but some are.
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Vic Matcham wrote:It not good any of you getting on your high horse now,why did you not like myself go to the public meetings some years ago and have your say.?
That is why I join the parish council so to try and stop it.
I put it to you Mr Little that you have just joined on the bandwagon now to help you get votes.
But anyway far to late now the road now.
I like many of the villagers went to the fist consultations and you could see their minds were already made up and we'd just have to fall in line. I think the only reason it was 'reduced' from 9'000 to 6'000 homes is because it was going to be 6'000 in the first place, the false reduction making it look more justifiable. We lived in Farncombe Way (moved to another part of the village) because we lived right by the field and could see views to Pegwell Bay. The attitude of the council was "well you don't own the view" which pretty much sums them up. This nonsense was started by the back end of Labour and was promised to be halted by Charlie Elphicke if he came into office (whom I voted for) and was as much use as a chocolate fireguard! Any sane person can see this 'Masterplan' is totally unjustifiable, but at the end of the day is all about £££!
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Welcome on board Mark. Top post.
This hellish scheme is being imposed anti-democratically, Stalinist-style, on a whole village whose views are simply being ignored. It really is the stuff of nightmares.
Brownfield sites in the town are everywhere, and lie derelict,and in places there is outright blight. Developers should not be allowed to build on green fields; brown field or nothing should be their options.
I have been accused of upsetting one or two councillors with my outspoken views, yet they seem blissfully unaware of how much they are upsetting so many people.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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"I have been accused of upsetting one or two councillors with my outspoken views, yet they seem blissfully unaware of how much they are upsetting so many people."
I expect they are aware Andrew but simply do not care.

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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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at the time of the meetings in sholden and whitfield, Charlie and a few district councillors made a lot of outraged noises but they knew full well it was a done deal.