Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I know that sir it is all to late to stop the first ones but not to late to stop others after that.As the parish council we were told they must be all sold and living in before the next lot go up.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Sorry Vic DDC did not let houses go to social landlords, the owners sold them to private sector buyers.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I don't think there are any "Social Landlords" up Fiolkestone Road - as Paul has just said, they were bought by developers for converting to very small flats.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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but you know as well as I do planning dept could have stop them going ahead with what happen,please sir do not take me as a fool.
I have no wish to fallout over this one with you it is all in the pass so best keep it that way,
We are way off what has been aske so going back to that,at this time and over the next ten years there is no need for 6000s family homes to be sold to be build at Whitfield or any parish try and build that many out at the bay you and I know the D.D.C, would never get away with it.
Brian Dixon
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vic,the thread is about whitfield and not Folkestone road.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Vic, I don't want to rehearse the history of the last ten years decision making for why Whitfield or why we need the houses, it's called demographics & SUITABLE land allocation.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry call it what you like sir but the truth is they are not needed.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Well we have to beg to differ.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes sir that the best way anything I say is not taken into account anyway.
But will add that is the same with the parish council and what they have been saying.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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If Vic is right, these new houses will lie empty for years. If Paul is right, they will be sold as and when they are built. We shall see.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Although they are not so big sites, the Elysium Park housing at the back of the Transport Museum site has been selling quite well and so has the Sholden ones - different developers, but building what people want.
If the Whitfield houses are pleasing to the public and sell at a good price, they'll sell too.
If we want to attract high earners, perhaps living in the Dover District but working in London - our home-grown youngsters might want to continue living here but working away, we must create a Town and District that will encourage people to stay here or move here and that includes sending out the right message about Dover being open for business.
Roger
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Now if I was a high earner working in London would I relocate to Whitfield to slug it up the motorway every day, don't think so.
It will probably become housing benefits city, owned by hedge funds
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Roger Walkden wrote:Although they are not so big sites, the Elysium Park housing at the back of the Transport Museum site has been selling quite well and so has the Sholden ones - different developers, but building what people want.
If the Whitfield houses are pleasing to the public and sell at a good price, they'll sell too.
If we want to attract high earners, perhaps living in the Dover District but working in London - our home-grown youngsters might want to continue living here but working away, we must create a Town and District that will encourage people to stay here or move here and that includes sending out the right message about Dover being open for business.
Roger
Quite Roger, which DDC and the MP are failing to do.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Keith Bibby wrote:Now if I was a high earner working in London would I relocate to Whitfield to slug it up the motorway every day, don't think so.
It will probably become housing benefits city, owned by hedge funds
The high earners don't slog up the M20 every day, they have a pied-a-terre in London and commute by train daily or by car weekly, leaving the wife and kids in the country. The houses being built locally won't appeal to the City high earners but are nevertheless of quite high quality and likely to appeal to people working in Canterbury, Ashford and Maidstone, where property is far more expensive.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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In this part of Kent we don't have much in the way of people earning much cash to take on the average £200'000 mortgages , but what we do have is lots of poor people requiring taxpayers assisted homes.
It's not just Whitfield getting mass housing, its all over Kent
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Depends on what we call "high-earners" really.
If we're talking £50,000 plus pa, then many houses in Dover that are being built and will be over the course of the next 20 years or so, will appeal to many London workers.
If you are talking about people earning quite a bit over £100,000, then there's places at the old Hamill brick-works that will be selling for between £475,000 and about £750,00 and some have already been sold, so we have a wide choice on offer and rightly so.
We don't want Dover to stagnate do we ? O.K. some will argue that is has, but that's because they don't know what's going on in the background - and you can't know everything; you will when they come to fruition and it can be announced, but you can't expect to know it all as it goes along - sorry David.
Roger
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Same old same old Roger, Hamill this, Sholden that, poor old Dover still sees nothing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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at the end of the day builders build only when they are sure of selling their houses in reasonably quick time.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Well blow me down Sue Nicholas has just rung me to tell me all about Buckland Mill. I agree its a wonderful development but it has nothing to do with DDC, all they've done is rubber stamp the application.
I wonder if Charlie wrote a letter complaining about the mess they might make.
Let's get this straight, as Howard says, builders/developers put the money down hoping to make a return, the council can take no credit at all. We can all see what happens when DDC play at developers, they blow £8.5m in 12 years with no return. In the real world that's called the sack and bankruptcy, in the cuckoo land at Whitfield it means things are happening.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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David, you can't force the money men to build high quality residential developments in a town with a primarily C2DE demographic.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson