Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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You've done nothing of the sort, just mumbled about "self".
The situations in The Falklands (I'd guess you refer to them as Les Malvinas) and Palestine are completely and utterly different.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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How might I have 'mumbled', "self-determination" is in the title of this thread.
At least I have you acknowledging that there
is such a thing as Palestine. Well done me.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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there is no real equivalent of the falkland situation, they are simply people going about there daily business as has gone for generations. no ethnic cleansing or religious differences that affect other countries.
in my view they should be left alone and if necessary defend them against any aggressor.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Tom Austin wrote:How might I have 'mumbled', "self-determination" is in the title of this thread.
At least I have you acknowledging that there
is such a thing as Palestine. Well done me.
What on earth are you on about?
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:there is no real equivalent of the falkland situation, they are simply people going about there daily business as has gone for generations. no ethnic cleansing or religious differences that affect other countries.
in my view they should be left alone and if necessary defend them against any aggressor.
Spot on Howard
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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actually i forgot about gibraltar, the spanish claim it because it is on their mainland, conveniently forgetting about their 2 enclaves in morocco.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Agree with your post 23 Howard.
I think the point that Tom is trying to make, is that if the Falkland Islanders can have self-determination (to stay British - and recognised by the rest of the world) by holding a referendum, then why can't Palestine and presumably the Gaza Strip ?
The people of Gibralter want to stay British, but I don't knw if they have held a referendum on it.
I thought Spain had given up their enclaves in Morocco Howard - there were a lot of Spanish Moroccans who wanted to move to Spain but they wouldn't allow it.
Roger
Keith Sansum1
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Well the would im sure prefer being under the British than argentina
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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roger
the gibraltarians have had 2 referendums with overwhelming numbers voting to stay british and as far as i know spain still has sovereignty over ceuta and melilla.
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Looks that way Howard - thank you.
Roger
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There are no real terrorists on either side of the Falklands dispute. On the Palestinian question we have terrorists on both sides: the Israeli Government on the one hand, and elements (I choose my words carefully) of both Hamas and Hezbollah on the other, Fatah having largely dropped its militant stance. Neither side really represents the rank and file; likewise most Agentinians don't give a tinker's damn about the Falklands: more examples of politicians doing their own thing regardless of the interests of their supposed constituents. Where have we heard that before?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
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july 1939,just before the out breake off ww2 peter.
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Hm, not what I was thinking of, Brian. 4/10, do again.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i have read a few times that the argentinian public would like the president to address urgent economic problems rather than sabre rattling about the malvinas.
didn't work for galtieri either.
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The Falkland Islanders are Brits, their islands are British, they have the Union Jack in their local flag (we of Kent have the White Horse), and there has never been Argentine sovereignty over the Falklands, apart from their failed invasion.
When Argentina received independence from Spain, their country had nothing to do with the Falklands.
Palestinian Hamas, Lebanese Hezbollah, Palestinian Christians chased out of Bethlehem by Palestinian PLO (until a few decades ago the Christians in Bethlehem were the vast majority before being chased out by the PLO), Palestinian normal people, Palestinian authorities, and Israeli government, and Israeli people.... have nothing whatsoever to do with the Falkland Islands, which are British.
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By the way, Argentina has nothing whatsoever to do with the Falkland Islands either!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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palestine is a different issue altogether, all us educated people know that it is almost entirely populated with people who have no interest in or knowledge of the arts, music and literature.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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but they do have the american gun culture and a shoot them up attitude.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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sling shots normally sort them out brian.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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a bit out of date howard,some likly lad droped a load of sa80's,howitzers and some large mbt's.