Keith Sansum1
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keith b
cant see any of the 3 major parties wanting to come out of the E.U
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Well they should wake up and smell the coffee because that is what the population want. I keep banging on at Charlie about Europe being the big issue in 2015 but whether the message will get through to No 10 is another matter. Cameron and Osborne seem to be getting more and more detached from the real world all the time and it worries me. Perhaps there's something in the Downing St water supply, because Blair and Brown did almost exactly the same thing.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Sadly that is what happens when you leave 'normal' life and reach the top, it happens to so many in the top position in any career.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Keith s .
Have the labour party ever asked the membership?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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keith b
asked what?
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Brian Dixon
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kieth,b,the uk is niether fully in nor fully out,but sitting on the wall.how can we have referendum on those basics.
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K Sam. cant see any of the 3 major parties wanting to come out of the E.U
Keith b. Have the labour party ever asked the membership? (Labour party membership) sam
There must be labour party members that wont a in out referendum, they cannot all be antidemocratic
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - we will be getting out of the EU. It is only a matter of time and it will be a Conservative government that will do it. I have given my reasons previously for saying this.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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keith b
i'm not a member of the labour party so wouldn't know
barryw
cameron said under his leaadership we won't be leaving the e u
are you saying cameron will be removed?
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Glad to hear that Sam.
all the good labour people have hopefully dumped them
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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sam?
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - you are an old politician yourself. You know never to take what politicians say too literally. Events will see us out of the EU in due course.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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barryw;
you have a dream, but in reality cameron is showing he has no interest in coming out of the E.U., he could not be much clearer.
my only thought has to be you have inside informatin on cameron being dislodged?
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - you need to catch up, I have said it before - get ahead of the curve and not behind it. I know you are not really as politically naive as you like to pretend.
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BARRYW;
So your saying cameron is lieing to the people?????????????
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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No Keith - just being a politician, there is a difference. The political reality changes all the time and we are on a course that will certainly lead to our exiting the EU under a Conservative government. It may be Cameron's successor in the Conservative majority government after 2017 that eventually gets us out. The Conservative mood is increasingly hostile to the EU including among Cameron's inner circle. I have explained all this in more detail before.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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could i humbly suggest you read todays dover express(not my paper at all)
predicting wth others a labour landslide and torys to lose Dover
like reg says tho barryw you keep in your cosy world it's probably better for you
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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and dont forget the coco/hot chocolait.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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quite right brian
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - mid-term, nothing strange or unusual there. I am just surprised it has taken so long but it will be a different story in 3 years.