Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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You assume that it is only the millionaires who want to keep their own money Keith - no it is just about everyone and there are ways we can all legally avoid tax and more fool you if you do not do so.
Keith Sansum1
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I fully understand where your coming from, do the rich who are mainly unaffected by the vicious cuts need protecting
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - taxes on the rich went up along with action on what Osborne call 'aggressive' anti avoidance (some, not-so-aggressive avoidance, open to many people is getting caught here as well...) The IFS post-budget study demonstrates that clearly. There is no point in having some taxes, like the 50p rate, that reduced HMRC revenues making the need to cut more public spending.
The fact is that public spending has to be cut and as a result those most dependant upon that get hit hardest there can be no doubt about that. But - is all that public spending that people have become used to really good for them? No is the answer, it should never have been increased in the first place. The fault lays with those who increased public spending to insane levels that are simply not sustainable, with no regard to the effect it has on the economy.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Not had a reply to an earlier post baz;
cutback backs(job losses)in the public sector
getting unemployment to reach 4 million doesn't do to much for the economy(or does it?)
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The public sector remains far too big and needs more serious cuts than are planned for the sake of the recovery. If you want lower unemployment then the private sector must provide it and to get that you have to reduce the burdens placed on it by the state.
What previous post?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we don't see companies rushing in to recruit redundant public sector workers and there is no indication that they will in the foreseeable future.
the benefits bill gets ever higher.
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But Howard - that come from an expanding economy and from growing businesses. How are we going to get that? By creating the right environment in which they can do so, low tax, cutting red tape, de-risking employing people. To do that the massive state burden must be lifted from businesses and that means spending cuts.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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let's get real barryw
as your fully aware to carry on your route would mean 4 million unemployed which will hardly boost economy paying for them to be on the dole is another short sighted way forward.
as howard says the private sector are not rushing to make up the 4 million unemployed places
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 16...................having a feeling of deja-vu.............many times we read in the press a company has gone to the wall
........having been on several boards of companies,all having board meetings every month,we experienced with one of
them for three months the finance director reporting everything was hunky dory..........my teams figures said differently
...........the finance director soon departed the company...............the trend of the UK`s economy has similar feeling...
..................`our`finance man may be beginning to tread water................
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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reg;
hes doing less than treading water
hes drowning
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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To do what I say Keith is the route to more prosperity and full employment. Public spending is the enemy along with rules and red tape that increase business costs.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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You may well promote your 'shiny top-hat theorem' Barry, but where is the Rabbit?
The difficulty everybody has with your not-so-chicken-and-egg idea is that we are all very much aware that Rabbits were around well before Top-hats.
Rabbits (by their very nature) abound.
If only we had not discarded the cloth-cap and Bowler in favour of the Deer-Stalker and Stetson.
Then there is the Opera-hat promoted by darling Sue elsewhere. Perhaps Rabbits shall pop-out of the hat designed to pop-up?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Brian Dixon
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barry if the cap fits wear it.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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george does take the biscuit(non vatable), he told as committee of m.p's that he had never bought a pasty from a high street bakers then told them that vat could be avoided if they let them get cold before they sell them.
i would love to watch him eat a cold cornish pasty.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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howard;
i would love to see george(and the cabinet) try tio survive like some of our poorer have to
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I have heard that Cornish Pasties were intended to be eaten cold. So true, when you think about it.
The proud boast, as I understand it, of a certain high street baker that all foods are cooked on the premises I know for a fact not to be true.
It has occurred to me that there is scope here for tax avoidance by such bakers and a claw-back by Pizza shops too.
Pizza shops need only turn their conveyor-belt ovens round to face into the shop, sell the cold pizza, place on conveyor and the customer picks up a cooked and hot pizza from the conveyor in a few minutes.
The baker need only drop their boast and sell cold and have an oven on the customer side of the counter to do likewise.
We all had better be prepared to brick-up our windows too.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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tom
you have windows in your bunker then?
upper cl;ass bunker then lol
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the tin miners in cornwall had to eat them cold, no choice.
doubt many would do so nowadays, i don't like them even when they are hot.