Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Ross - our honourable member was most certainly not 'parachuted in'.
A Sandwich resident with family connections to this constituency at the time he was selected, he was selected by the local selection committee from a long list that did include local councillors. Done on merit entirely. I speak as someone who supported another candidate from the shortlist and who would also say what a good choice has has proven to be.
To say he was parachuted in suggests he was selected by someone other than a local selectors. Only local members had a vote over who the candidate would be.
Keith Sansum1
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barryw
a little rich indicating charlies local, but you did say up to the selection so suppose that covers it.
on performance obviously i wouldnt share that view
hes a nice enough chap, good for dover? not so sure
rebel?/ never part of the furniture probably.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - the short-list was drawn up locally and went through several stages. He was Dover's selection, no-one else had an input. We, of course had the 700 or so strong candidate list from central office from which all candidates are drawn, all Parties have them. The list included well known local association activists, one of which I referenced and helped get on that list.
You love your innuendo but the fact is that Charlie's residence in Sandwich and family in Shepherdswell makes him as local as anyone can be. He was also entirely the choice of local people. Your wishful thinking cannot change that.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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no wishful thinking baz
not so sure he was resident dover prior to the election
but its fine matey of course you would promote your guy
as i said nice enough geeze ever rebel?dont think so
good for dover? not so sure.
but there you have it
i have in other posts indicated my views on othr parties (including labour) faults so im im not just commenting on your charlie
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i thought charlie was primarily based in knightsbridge up until the election.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Sandwich Howard and he actually lived fairly near to where Peter Rees used to live when Peter was our MP. His local connections are more than just where he lived of course. Working in London of course he has/had a place there too and the fact that he already had somewhere saved the taxpayer some dosh.
The important point is that he was not 'parachuted in' which suggests he was forced on the local Party in some way, he was not, he was chosen by locals from a list that included well known locals. As I say I supported one such local at the time, not Charlie, but now I would say he was an excellent choice.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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Barry, you say Charlie was an excellent choice, could you enlighten me as to his successes so far, because I must have blinked and missed them.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Dave - then blink no more. If it was not for Charlie then the original DHB privatisation plan would have been given the go-ahead a year ago, we would not have the high speed train to Deal now agreed either. In a bit over a year that is a lot better than 'Tosser' managed in, what, 13 years. If you subscribe to They Work for You you will also see that Charlie is a lot more active in pursuing matters than his rather lazy predecessor.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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seems like the aegean sun and ouzo has gone to your head barry.
mr tosser together with nigel collor and others got the high speed service to our part of kent, the deal bit is just an add on.
granted charlie lobbied for it but it would not have happened without the original work in getting it to dover and k.c.c. susidising the deal bit.
the proposed "peoples port" is the brain child of neil wiggins, charlie has helped front it despite him wanting it to remain a trust port prior to being elected.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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Funny coming from Sandwich as I do and knowing Peter Rees as I did,no one I know knew of Charlie until he turned up as Candidate in Thanet which he did not get,of Course Sandwich is in the Thanet Parlimentary area,then he just happened to reside in Deal after he got the Dover job.
What is strange is I used to see him going 'Home' on the train every time he appeared in Dover and sold him his tickets at times and it wasnt to Sandwich,it was to London.
By the way most of my family still live in Sandwich! As a Cllr we now get messages from residence saying the MP told us to contact you,and one of them was about the CSA.
I know Charlie well,we often shared a ciggie at the Station, and as a bloke he is ok,as an MP ........lots to learn......
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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let the cat out of the bag now john, many will not vote for charlie now that they know he smokes.
probably won't do you any good in tower hamlets ward either.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Sometimes it's the things that don't get pasted all over the papers that matter too. Charlie was kind enough to intervene in the matter with the local hospital and my Mothers abysmal treatment there - I will always be grateful. He displayed charm and tact - not too close nor too far away. That's a skill.
Brian Dixon
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i thought charlie had a pad in walmer,alan has droped him off there a couple of times.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Good point Bern.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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the point is, charlie does his bit as others have before him
but often its the combination of many bodies that achieve these aims
not any one person
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So it matters that individuals are credited where it is due. There is not enough praise given - it's too easy to moan and the effect of some praise and an optimistic view are immeasurable. Clearly stuff happens through some partnership working and a bit of collaboration, but there are movers and shakers in the mix who get the jobs done - fair play.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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yes well done to ALL past and present movers and shakers
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Dover wouldn't be where it is without them.
