Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Oh! and by the way. Shall the 'new' commissioner be allowed to sit on the bench? If not, would it not be best then to vote-in this Independent to be rid of a wish-washy Magistrate?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
interesting and colourful candidate tom but he has stepped down now due to policing cuts making the job not worth doing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fergus_and_Judith_WilsonJan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,883
I still have not read or heard anything that makes me want to vote, the whole thing has yet to convince me there will be any improvement on what we have.
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Tories
tough on crime?...
"The EU arrest warrant was used to arrest Marek Harcar in 2008. He assaulted, abducted, brutally raped and murdered my beloved daughter and then fled back to Slovakia. Thanks to the dedication of the Strathclyde police, the cooperation of the Slovakian police and the EU arrest warrant, this serial criminal was brought back to the UK and is serving a minimum of 25 years in prison and will then be deported. When the lord advocate announced his criminal conviction at the end of his trial (and 13 previous convictions, at least four for violence), I thought a mistake had been made in letting him into the UK. I was appalled to learn that it was the norm for EU citizens to come in unchecked.
Since then I have met with two home secretaries and written to many ministers, MPs and MEPs in my attempts to have changes made in the law so that other families' lives would not be torn apart like ours. I have been given many assurances. I know that improvements have slowly taken place and that millions have been pledged by the EU to member states to enable them to participate in the European Criminal Record Information Service.
Now I hear that the government is "minded" to opt out of scores of EU justice measures (Report, 16 October). I am more than disgusted. It shows total disregard for victims everywhere and for the increased number of citizens throughout the EU who will become victims if this proposal goes ahead. Police investigations will be severely hampered and fighting some crimes well nigh impossible. Is this another way to enable government to further reduce police budgets? I am totally bewildered and can think of no logical reason for this.I thought that in a big society folks were meant to look our for each other. Our big society will become more and more splintered, with more criminals, more victims, more fear. This proposal may well be merely a sop to the right wing, it is terrifying to contemplate that it may be more than that, but if so it is a very dangerous one indeed.
Beatrice Jones
Address supplied"
From...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/18/crime-opt-outs-more-victimsIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
certainly livening up now, reminds me of a group of bald men fighting over a comb.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-19992957Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
i am affraid that my self and my famly have a very nasty attack of apathy,acording to my docter its very contageus and has advised us to stay indoors for the next 3 weeks.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 43.....agree...if I do bother to vote it will be to spoil with a similar message...
# 44 disturbing case,which highlights the need for the EU arrest warrant.......yet another example that the EU skeptics,
moral blindness,will just disagree with EU policies......no matter what....
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
It's a bit like attending Dover FC's away matches Brian, they go on whether you are there or not. If and when the club gives-up the ghost citing a lack of support there'll be plenty scope to spread the blame.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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"Elected police commissioners: a criminal waste of a good idea
Directly electing police commissioners was an arresting idea screwed up by our political masters."
"... A policy that was intended to draw out a new breed of tough local heroes has ended up inspiring something akin to Wacky Races, with all manner of unlikely characters in pursuit of 41 hazily defined new jobs that pay up to £100,000 a year. ..."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9617783/Elected-police-commissioners-a-criminal-waste-of-a-good-idea.htmlIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
Eye am reminded of the, "Don't let the buggers get you down." message inscribed upon a watch given to Asil Nadir many years ago.
Of all the Tories in the whole of Hampshire, which 78 year old exMP has been chosen as the preferred Police Commissioner candidate?
Yes, you've guessed it, Michael Mates, he that gifted the watch to AN and was a defence witness for him at the recent trial.
Might the Police be overjoyed at the prospect of Elected Commissioners? Perhaps not...
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/concern-over-elected-police-commissioners-025401020.htmlIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
To get it to another view
the police are losing there way, top heavy, outdated.
sadly i don't think the introduction of who ever wins this election will make much difference
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
Interesting comment #51.
Nothing like' biting the hand the feeds you'
Watty
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
kieth if you could do better go for it but dont knock it untill you try it.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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"Never has so much been said on a subject of so minuscule public regard by somebody who is against it anyway..."
Nevertheless...
"Former head of Scotland Yard Sir Ian Blair has urged people not to vote, arguing the new police areas will be too big for any individual to represent properly - a remark Justice Secretary Chris Grayling dismissed as "a very silly thing to say"."
More importantly...
"But is there any sign voters want this big change? On what could be a gloomy, wet day in mid-November, will large enough numbers actually vote to give these new commissioners the legitimacy they need?"
from...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20028550Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 54 ...Sir Ian is spot on....election turnout will show they will not have a mandate....but under this administration will
get the job and cost us a fortune.......ill-conceived policy....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i think sir ian is right on this one particularly in such a large area as kent.
if one asks people in the medway towns what should take precedence people in hythe would say something completely different.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,883
That argument could be used even for a small area like Dover, I suspect those in River have different problems to those in your area Howard.
At the moment I still have no intention of voting even though there was an item on TV this evening as I refuse to vote for somebody I know virtually nothing about.
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Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
- Posts: 2,438
Can see nothing in this line up to make me think they should be making the decisions that will determine the policing we will get in Kent
http://www.policeelections.com/candidates/kent/Audere est facere.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
- Posts: 7,819
Had a look at that link there Martin, a good one, shows all the candidates. I think myself it is a mistake politicising the whole thing. We had press releases from Craig Mackinlay who is a highly political Conservative which we did show on various threads. But I myself am with Sir Ian Blair too, and dont think I will be voting either. It is a pointless Westminster Village style exercise, in other words only of interest to those in the political corridors of power and the best way of telling them its pointless is to ignore it. Dont know who thought this one up !
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Everyone (for as long as I can remember) has said that the Police should do this or that, or even shouldn't be doing whatever and this is your (the public's) opportunity to get them to look at and implement, local issues and concerns.
By not voting, you are saying you don't care about Policing; on another thread I've put a piece about Spokes and illegal cycling in Dover - don't we all want a stop to this (apart from the cyclists of course ?
There are many other things we want to change too - aren't there ?
Roger