Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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With all due respect, Roger, how can the Police Commissioner be run along party political lines? Shouldn't policing be kept out of politicians' hands? It seems to me that many of society's ills are down to the fact that politicians can't stop squabbling and put the greater good of the country first.
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Brian Dixon
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still it would be nice to know who's standing,but in this case i doubt if i will be voting either.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#18
"We need local input to this."
Are there not local committees that do this already? Cross-party and a-political.
Again, what level of turnout would grant or dissolve credibility?
If you think this whole thing is a bad idea, for any of a number of reasons. Only by turning out and spoiling your ballot will your disdain count. Do nothing get nothing.
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Should you ever meet a candidate for this very well paid job, what question would you ask them, on which matter of concern to you would you seek their opinion?
You could, in my opinion, do worse than ask them to comment on this story...
http://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/news/local/blind-man-tasered-in-police-blunder-1-5034507Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1
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its an interesting developement
no less so when Holland who had police commissioners are now doing away with them
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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To be honest Andy, I agree with you, but as there is going to be an election on it, I and other Councillors, cannot change that, only vote for who we think will tougher on crime and I hope that Craig Mackinlay will be.
Roger
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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So Roger, which might it be?
You think he is the right man.
You hope he is the right man, (Or, at least he is the Conservative man.)
Is it to be a straight choice of choosing the person who is going to be the harder on crime. Or something done along strict Party lines?
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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At the end of the day Tom, I'm on my own in the voting booth; I decide who I'll vote for, but at the moment I do feel that Mr. Mackinlay will be the best man for the job.
Roger
Guest 776- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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You have to bother, you have to know. Otherwise, life is just a negative.
This forum has to be a funnel for information, we cannot access.
Who are the candidates?
What are they standing for?
Can anyone enlighten us?
Please and Thank you.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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christine,i have allready asked that question,but apart from the tory chap.there seems that there is no other candidate.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#19 Jan and #29 Christine. It is up to the candidates to get their own names out there, meet people and promote their policies. There is no such thing as 'decent unbiased information'. You need only to see the BBC output to see that!
As for the party label, it is just that, an indication of where a candidate's attitudes and values are and who are supporting/sponsoring and working for the candidate.
For instance. The Conservative candidate will have been selected by a panel who want a tough no-nonsense approach to crime and who believe in proper punishment and not namby-pamby social worker solutions.
As for specific policies then you need to read the literature that is being delivered and see what they say in the newspapers.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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The present set up...
http://www.kentpoliceauthority.gov.uk/
Twelve members, of which only a mere six are Conservatives, one Labour, one Lib-Dem, and four independent. Some may be Magistrates. Oh, and two are women.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I do actually agree with barryw
it is up to the parties and the candidates to get themselves known
they will all say they are tough on crime
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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As not every candidate has their own dedicated web site this will have to do...
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Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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I have not got a clue about it, I do not know anything about who is standing let alone what they stand for and for the life of me I can not understand why it would be a politically attached position. So how do you vote for something you know nothing about apart from an advert on the TV every hour or so?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Apparently Harry, you vote along strict Party lines.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Vote how you want...
Harry - the whole idea is to make policing accountable instead of having council nominated police committees.
Decide what type of policing you want and who is most likely to deliver that and vote for it.
My view is that I hate 'liberal' law and order attitudes and consider them to be guilty of fostering a 'no blame no shame' culture with soft punishments and excessive 'uman rights. That just encourages crime and criminals. It is Labour and the LibDems who are most associated with these attitudes (though sadly the Conservative also have a few like Clarke...).
I heard somewhere that the independent is a very 'soft' magistrate as well. No good for me.
I want someone who wants nothing to do with such wishy washy attitudes.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Is there to be a fixed term of office, or can the public petition to be rid of a non-performing/mal-performing sort?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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harry has hit the nail on the head, none of us have any idea about the candidates and their worth. add to that what good would any police commissioner do over and above what the disbanded police authorities have done.
what we really need is a chief constable that is in tune with what the public expect of them and the will to carry out their wishes.
