Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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UKIP will carry on in Dover,we will have members in place to take over from me,if not I will carry on till there is. But the new committee will come from the Dover and The Deal Members.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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In fact I think a new committee is needed. The old one seemed to be stuck to the chair.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have already posted the way we are going to take.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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To me it seemed you posted that you were stepping down as chairman of UKIP, Vic. You also mentioned a new committee.
That would mean that the new committee and the new chairman would decide which way local UKIP is going.
As UKIP is a national party with TV and press coverage, and 12 MEPs in Brussels, it would be correct for you to inform the local press of your decision to step down as chairman, so that other people can come forward as candidates for the post of chairman.
My favourite local paper is the Dover Mercury, but I think the Dover Express would be happy to write an article about Councillor Vic Matcham's decision to resign as local chairman of UKIP, and follow up the events with the new committee and the new chairman.
This would also attract attention among the public to UKIP's presence in Dover, and give the new committee a chance to expose their plans to move the party forward.
So the sooner you contact the press, Vic, the better for UKIP!
UKIP needs some press coverage.
Not to do so after publicly stating you are leaving the post of chairman would damage UKIP.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have already said any new commitee or chairman will come from our own partys members within the two Branchs of Dover and Deal none will come from outside them.
There is no need for any press coverage at all, This happens all the time within all partys even the major ones, without press coverage and we are not so big as they are,so it is a no.I will not be telling the press they would not act on it anyway.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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I think you forget this isn't a private discussion group, it's open for the whole world to read so the press already know.
I can't imagine the local chairmen of the other major parties discussing these sort of matters in public, wonder your other committee members are thinking?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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No I have not forgot that,with me most is in the open to all to read,or I would not have put it on the forum.You are right about the press,If they think they would like to do a write about it let them do it.I am avery old hand at doing things.My committee are great and we get on very well thank you.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Vic if the way you have described is what is laid down in your UKIP constitution that is fine. Otherwise an attempt to promote or exclude any particular person or group of people would be open to a legal challenge which would certainly bankrupt your local branch. Better make sure you know exactly what the rules for succession are.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Vic, once you made public the decision to withdraw from the post of chairman of UKIP Dover and Deal at the next meeting, the news immediately spreads, as UKIP is a political party with democratic structures within the party, and of public interest.
Of-course the new commitee members and the chairman will be from within the Dover and Deal area, which is why local people interested in UKIP matters ought to know.
It wouldn't be right not to inform the public and UKIP members/supporters before the meeting, ie before stepping down as chairman, otherwise the local branch of the party would find themselves without a new commmittee (you mentioned a new committee) and without a chairman.
This could be damaging to the party.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Peter is right, it is doubtful whether a new committee and chairman could be appointed privately without an internal democratic way within the party's structure for all members to apply and to vote.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have already said a new chairman or members to the committee will be done by the members of the Dover and Deal Branchs,if any UKIP member would like to put their names forward for a job on the committee or even the chairmans roll, then join the branch.I again have already said we do things in the open and not in private.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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vic
please clear up any confusion, in post 25 you say that only party members from dover and deal can get onto the committee.
then in post 31 you change that to any member of ukip who joins locally, how would anyone from say folkestone know that they could apply?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Any member of UKIP can join us then put their name forward for office then a vote is taken all partys do the same.(I think)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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So if any member of UKIP can join the Dover and Deal branch and apply for a role on the committee or as chairman, it is necessary to inform the local members of UKIP and UKIP nationwide, and certainly in East Kent, as you announced that you are giving up your post as chairman at the next meeting, Vic.
When is the next meeting?
If you do not act now in informing UKIP members, at the next meeting the local branch will be without a chairman and possibly without a committee, as you implied that the committee also needs to be re-elected, in order to have a new one.
Vic, you must inform UKIP of your decision before the next meeting, you cannot leave it at that!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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vic
how will people from outside of dover and deal know of the vacancies on the committee?
is there a circular sent out to all branches?
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Howard, the answer's here,
http://www.ukipsoutheastkent.co.uk/, Folkestone are a separate branch with their own committee.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well I hope you all log into it,it makes good reading well Done Mr Newsam ,I was trying to get UKIP back into the local news again,What do I always say"Think outside the box".
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Happy to do my bit towards the subject of this thread!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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very droll mr newsam.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Dear Vic, you have got UKIP back into the local news again, the word has gone viral on internet, as you will see when you check it out on the Web.
