Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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#21
I've said it before on here and I'll say it again. It landed me in trouble with Jeanette for saying it, but it was true then and it's true still: the LRCF is led by a focussed and determined committee that does so much more for its area than (for example) the Chamber of Commerce, that it puts the CoC to shame. By rolling up their collective sleeves and getting things done, the LRCF is one body the town can really take pride in.
Kudos to Jeanette and the LRCF as a whole. Brilliant stuff.....Jeanette, you really are a superstar!!!
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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#22
Well done everyone. Brilliant effort clearing up that hideous eyesore. I abhor littering and litterbugs. Lazy, selfish b*stards.
The guillotine's too good for them, Barry!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#23
I have argued for the use of section 215 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 on a number of buildings in Dover; I had also written to the owners of some of those that need refurbishing/new windows etc.
I have been working with the Dover Society to encourage the Planning Department to take up the mantle and get these buildings sorted.
I can't now follow those up as an individual, as there is no weight behind it, perhaps the new DBS Manager will.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#24
out of interest roger, out of all the letters sent to owners, how many actually replied?
Terry Nunn
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#25
As someone who had also written to owners Howard, I suspect that the answer is zero.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#26
yes terry i remember you saying many moons ago that "dover municipal charities" were the owners of a few eyesores along the london road.
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
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#27
They still are Howard, it does them no credit. And to think that some illustrious local people are the trustees.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#28
Councillors if I'm not mistaken!!!!!!
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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#29
not all Councillors Sid and across the board as I understand it.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
#30
Correct John. If only they could be named and shamed, however, the legal representaives for the DMC are a local firm who take protection of the 'names' very seriously indeed.
What amazes me is those Councillors seem to have no scruples and just sit tight and lt this travesty continue. Surely they wanted election so they could improve our town, but as soon as they get sucked into DMC they go all shy.
One is tempted into conjecturing about brown envelopes to keep lips sealed and stuff.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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#31
I am not into brown envelopes Sid,and my lips aren't sealed,sometimes I wish they were,because I do have a habit of opening my mouth and putting my foot in it.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
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#32
I also open my mouth and speak the truth and get knocked down for it.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#33
terry
just carry on as you are, the usual incorrigible rogue with no political bias.
i seem to remember you saying that you arrived here as a baby or toddler, therefore your views hold more validity.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#34
I am a Trustee of the Muncipal Charities of Dover, so are a few other Councillors.
I do not consider that I have no scruples Sid and the inference of brown envelopes is offensive.
Without giving confidential information about MCD, they now own very few properties along London Road.
Those they do own, are either operating businesses; in the process of being sold (commercial properties are not their core business), or in talks to have them turned into residential.
I believe there is one, maybe two empty shops they own there and they have been made aware of the local concern about the state of it/them and they are looking to do them up (internally as well as externally), sell them off/offer short term tenancies on them.
Roger
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#35
Why is the MCD ownership of properties on London Road 'confidential' information Roger? Why not list them here?
Have you seen the state of the empty MHK Baths and Kitchens recently?
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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#36
Im on the board of Trustees of DMC .I donot receive brown envelopes and I too find that comment offensive .
DMC are a business and all Trustees have to remember we are there to ensure that we act in accordance within the set rules .The core aim of the charity is to provide homes for the elderly of the old Dover Borough.
Roger has stated some of the actions being taken .You need to be aware that some of the properties are on lease agreements .
Over the years many properties formly owned by the charity have been sold
DMC are a business working within the charity rules
#37
Hmm. Apologies about the brown envelope, it was merely 'flush'.
Interesting to hear at last what DMC actually do with the vast sums of money they raise. It would be nice to know how they raise the money, if only for idle curiosity.
It would be nice to know how it spends its money too.
Anyway, I've been down this road before. DMC is worse than the masons for secrecy and all requests for information have to go via a very reluctant local firm of solicitors, who deliberately it seems, take an age to answer the simplest of questions.
This behaviour of DMC, I would suggest, is most odd for a charity.
Guest 686- Registered: 5 May 2009
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#38
Phil West
If at first you don't succeed, use a BIGGER hammer!!
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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#39
Thanks Phil, that makes interesting reading. Over the period featured in the figures shown in that link, the income and expenditure is showing a surplus of just under £600,000. I appreciate that I know nothing about this charity, and I respect both Roger and Sue as Trustees to do their best, but surely £600,000 could do a lot of good - isn't this how the money was intended, rather than sitting in a bank account.
I agree with the previous postings that secrecy shouldn't be how any charity operates; secrecy engenders mistrust and the old adage that 'if there is nothing untoward, why is it kept secret?'.
True friends stab you in the front.
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
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#40
MCD has a website surprisingly.
http://www.dmc.uk.net/
As I see it the problem lies with the management, I would doubt that the individual trustees have any real power to do anything. There is a move afoot to demolish the first part of London Road and "return them to domestic properties". Whilst I agree that this would be a good idea I think that the premise is wrong, I'm convinced that they were built as shops. It's only further up the road where gardens were built over and made into shops.
Here's a nice picture lent to me by John Turnpenny, on the right is what is now MHK, off picture is the now demolished Falcon pub.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
