Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Spotted Jeanette and a small band of helpers clearing rubbish from the front of the YHA in London Road today. I didn't count but it looked like in excess of 20 bags of rubbish were collected.
Well done!
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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Seconded. I'd have loved to have been there, however work gets in the way of these things.
True friends stab you in the front.
Isn't that a job for DDC?
Guest 679- Registered: 7 Sep 2008
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Thanks Terry....especially for the coffee afterwards, it was much needed! I didn't count the bags that we collected either, but yes, I reckon your estimation was about right, my poor leg is living to tell the tale now!!
Have got a before and after photo on my phone which I'll try and post.....don't fancy my chances much though because I've never successfully posted a picture on here! Hope PaulB is at hand!!
Sid, it isn't DDC's responsibility to clear private land and we only did it because we were sick of looking at it. In fairness to DDC they did remove the bigger furniture that had been dumped there a few months ago and billed the owner for it. All we had to do today was 'tidy up'.
I know a million ways to always pick the wrong thing to say
Thanks for the update Jeanette, and a big WELL DONE to all those who made the effort.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Yes, a BIG well done to Jeanette and her helpers.
Maybe we need to organise a clean-up along Folkestone Road, there's rubbish dumped on private land that DDC can't collect.
Roger
Brian Dixon
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Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Here are some pictures that Jeanette emailed me.
I'm told that the dog helped!
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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that dog must have been thinking to himself, when humans dump there is nothing said, when i do it, there is an 80 quid fine and an asbo.
see what they mean by a dogs life.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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nahhhh thats a gaurd dog sitting in front of its kennal.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Good to see the results.
Presumably the owners of the land didn't need to give their permission ? If this is the case, then maybe things really can change.
Roger
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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There's the problem Roger, officially it was trespass. Had the people involved entered a building it would have been a different matter. I can't see any owner getting litigious over someone clearing up their frontage. Last year I removed a bed from the grassed frontage of a local shop. It had been there for months. The large chain that owned the premises wouldn't pay to have it removed and wouldn't allow the manager to remove it as he wouldn't be insured.
Sometimes one has to take action.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 650- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well done indeed. How good to see beneficial practical action.
I hope your leg is recovering, Jeannette.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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First of all..Well done to all those involved in cleaning the place up.What baffles me is that in the 21st Century there are some people that still consider dumping their rubbish either by fly-tipping or mindless street littering as acceptable.It isn't and I have been involved in many an argument by telling folk to pick up their litter..especially as the exit a fast food shops,scoff their grub and throw the wrappings or drinks containers on the street.
Anyone found guilty of littering should not be fined but should be forced to do a months community work as a street sweeper/road cleaner.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
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Oh how I agree it just amazes me how lazy some poeple are when it comes to getting rid of rubbish, just dumping it anywhere for somebody else to clear up.
Guest 650- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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We have a hedge outside the house. The house is on an estate, but midway between pubs, and just at the place where people who've bought fast food will have finished eating it on their way home. We periodically find food trays, crisp wrappers, cans, bottles pushed into the hedge.
Oh well, at least they're not thrown down, to litter the road.
A tall fence and a couple of security lights on the path at the side of the house have stopped the other things we occasionally found ....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i wonder whether legislation will ever happen to punish people who fail to keep their properties rubbish free?
their really should be no need for community clean ups.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well Done to Jeanette and all the helpers from the LRCF in clearing up the eyesore outside the old YMCA Hostel
It's a shame that you have to take matters into your own hands to improve our surroundings, this shouldn't be the case as in the distant past either the owners or local authorities would clear up the mess
Marek, Fly-tippers a month's community service! Too lenient!, Off with their heads!
Guest 679- Registered: 7 Sep 2008
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Hi Howard,
There are ways the local authority can take action against owners of derelict property. They have the legal power to take action, if only they were prepared to....
Here are a couple of examples:
To need the owner to address unsightly land or the external appearance of a property - Town and Country Planning Act 1990, Section 215
To need the owner to take steps to address a property adversely affecting the amenity of an area through its disrepair - Building Act 1984, Section 79
I believe these Acts have been mentioned on the forum before but to start tackling the problem now, after leaving it for so very long, would cost an absolute fortune...and where would they start? In my eyes they've dug themselves a very deep hole that they can't get out of.
I know a million ways to always pick the wrong thing to say
Jeanette, one has to make a start, as Hastings did.
