Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Part of the draw of the Height is the managed nature, but the self sown sycamore does damage to the heritage and also the chalk grassland. Left to go wild won't help this. Rare orchids will go, grazing won't take place if there isn't more funding.
Already huge amounts of damage has been done by ivy, buddlea and tree to the moat walls. If left, I suspect that before long the walls around the Drop Redoubt will be in danger of collapse and eventually will cause areas to be sealed off. I have seen it tear away brickwork and in areas there are many courses of brickwork dropped away. Already areas are in a dangerous condition and you cannot allow public to walk in and around areas without serious investment and a long term strategy
Here is a small amount of damage from ivy and buddleia, some of this below Knights Templar !!!
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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That's a fantastic novelty: to repair a damaged wall on Western Heights, build 700 houses at Farthingle!
So if I want to mow a lawn, I build a house in Cabterbury!
Only in your world Alex
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Actually no, Sarah. Farthingloe is an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.
Why ruin this natural beauty?
If Farthigloe got 700 new houses, guess where all the traffic would be passing? Down my road! I'd be breathing in all the extra pollution, and many others living along this road. They'd all be transiting by car from Farthingloe to Dover town to do the shopping, go to restaurants, to generally spend their money (investing in the town?).
I don't travel by car, but go on foot, so I breath in other people's pollution.
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You really think that the extra vehicles is a reason to stop the development?
Last year Dover Port had:
13 million passengers
2.6 million car movements
85,000 coaches
2 million lorries
Let's start the campaign to close the docks down so you can have some cleaner air.......
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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But Alexander - you still don't answer the question of where the money will come from to employee all these full time gardeners....
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Brian Dixon
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digging up the a20 and grassing it over would be a better idea.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Paul, evidently you have not studied the planning permission laws:
the Docks do not come into this. But there are planning laws concerning rural areas and generated travel through new buildings, and these laws apply to Farthingloe and Western Heights.
Of-course many people like to escape the Docks traffic, and the Folkestone Road/London Road traffic. So that leaves W.H. and Farthingloe as a green areas.
But with these new planning proposals, traffic would INCREASE along Folkestone Road and on the Heights.
Is this what you call logical?
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Groundhog Day again!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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No, Ray. The point is, can one reason along the grounds that, because of the Port traffic infesting Townwall and Snargate Streets, why not just develop estates on Farthingloe, an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty, and generate even more traffic...
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Just bringing in some totally irrelevant points unrelated to the planning application like you do Alexander !!
So what is your answer ??
"you still don't answer the question of where the money will come from to employee all these full time gardeners...."
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Howard - we will be looking at community payback for a larger project we want to carry out later in the year
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I don't know, Paul. From the Bank of Israel, Perhaps.
Keith Sansum1
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That's not a bad starting point then alexander, although you clearly have passion for the w heights, it appears it's all guess work as to where dosh might come from to help the w heights.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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so some people dont want develpment in the town,so what shall we do.let the town rot and let it collapce around us,so the dhb can buy up land cheap for a lorry park hence the town dying.or redevelop and bring life back to the town to be used as a holding town rather than a car/lorry park.
bank of israel who are they some toy town piggy bank.?
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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A very major flaw in your plan then Alexander..... not as easy as you make it out to be....
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Serious photos there Paul - that buddleah grows any and every, where.
If the houses are going to be built at Farthingloe I would guess that most cars will go up the Folkestone Road to the Capel junction and then either down the A20 or up it.
Of course there will be some cars coming down the road, there always is, no one would dream of stopping cars coming down the road. I live on the Folkestone Road too and I'm not grumbling - cars are part of everyday life now.
Roger
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It is Roger - the top image isn't that clear but it is a bit of the 'DDC' owned ditch (between the Citadel and the Detached Bastion) of which has lost three of it's four courses of brickwork through frost/vegetation damage.
2nd image is of the North Entrance road tunnel (outside)
3rd is the ditch between the Drop Redoubt and the cliff
4th is the inside of the North Entrance where the public walk !!
Serious work is needed to be able to kerb the vandalism/vegetation damage and then to repair it.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I can't see vandalism being the problem here, Paul.
That's nature at work, not vandalism!
The Vandals were civilised people, they settled in North Africa, in the area of Carthage, and didn't come to Dover
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Thanks Paul.
Vandalism and vegetation are indeed the biggest dangers.
Roger
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