Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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NEWS? As stated before anything relating to Dover Gateway is irrelevant as that was a venture that never happened... you are quoting stuff from several years ago !!!
Trying to discreted the company does nothing to help your 'cause', stick to your real reasons and you might get some report as you don't understand the financial reports !!
So, as you seem to be obsessed with Israel Bank... so where is your letter to them you were going to post ?
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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In fact with your Googling skills you will find the report about the dropping of the Dover Gateway venture in 2010 is also on the CGI website
http://www.cgiplc.com/media-docs/14th-Oct-2010.pdfBeen nice knowing you :)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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So I have discovered that CGI have to repay a loan of £31. something million.
They have a lot of agricultural land around Manston Business Park with no planning consent.
They have a big problem.
But somehow they would find the many millions to do up the Napoleonic defences all over western Heights.
Ahem!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Paul, I think a lot of explaining needs to be done here.
May-be someone should explain what is going on at Manston Business Park.
And exactly who has bought what land and where on Farthingloe and on Western Heights.
I have discovered that I am absolutely unaware of what is going on.
This whole thing needs explaining, as there are evidently financial concerns involved.
I fear that what is going on is not in the interests of Dover, but of a developer in debt.
This needs explaining, I am not at all aware of what is going on here.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Maybe you are not a good position to be in then if you are 'campaigning' to the public and writing to the developers bank if you don't understand the facts ??
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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To correct post 558, the news came from a different site to that of China Gateway International, for which my apologies.
It came from thanetstrife blogspot.com.
From a CGI website I came across the following information:
"The directors propose to use their experience to maximise the development potential of the company's three existing sites and expand the portfolio"
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Paul, I think most Dovorians do not understand the facts behind this development scheme, but I do understand that I don't want these urban projects on Farthingloe and on Western Heights.
What I managed to understand about the developer, is that they have a debt of £31 million.
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"The Company has made significant progress to move the opportunities forward for its Dover properties as part of a Dover Master Plan, with an anticipated submission of a planning application by the end of April 2012."
This seems to have come from a CGI website, in relation to the closure of their share trading and a return to a private business LTD.
Now, what is their Dover Master Plan?
Where does it start, and where does it end?
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Farthingloe/Western Hts planning application is now registered & validated i.e. the clock is ticking.
Watty
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thanks Paul that is good to hear, now the proper real work can start....
Do you know how soon until the documentation will made available online ?
Been nice knowing you :)
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Not yet Paul. Just picked up the info on return for time away.
Watty
Guest 750- Registered: 12 Apr 2012
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meeting at 8 Citadel Heights, Braddon with CGI to have an open, honest discussion regarding the development. All are welcome and I do hope that those that have been vocal on the forum attend.
I am led to believe that the validation process takes two weeks and plans will be able to be viewed after the bank holidaym
Meeting is on the 7th June at 6pm - my contact details are
lara2012pimblett@hotmail.co.ukhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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reminder of the meeting tomorrow at 6 p.m hopefully the plans will be available to enable a good discussion.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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WHPS are still trying to find someone who is available but as most of us don't live/work that locally or work shifts, a 6pm meeting won't be that easy to get to
Been nice knowing you :)
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Looking forward to meeting you all TONIGHT at 6pm
8 Citadel Heights
Braddon
CT17 9DS
Will be a good debate with views from both sides.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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are the plans in the public domain, have looked without finding anything?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I don't think I've seen a planning application with so many separate documents (47). A lot of effort and money have gone into the preparation of this.
I was sent this, this morning - it's a recent extract from the London Evening Standard:
The Kent coast is moving closer to London. As high-speed trains slice a staggering two hours off the return journey time to Folkestone and Dover, an ambitious regeneration programme is rolling out waves of optimism for the future of these historic harbour towns.
Towns that were for so long merely departure and arrival points for tens of thousands of Channel-hopping holiday-makers are being revitalised to attract London commuters and weekenders looking for that elusive combination of an accessible seaside location and value-for-money property.
While other parts of Kent's coast (notably Margate and Whitstable) have been on the London radar for a decade and more, run-down Dover and Folkestone were passed over, unable to reverse the decline that set in during the Seventies. The new high-speed rail link has been the game changer, attracting investment and kick-starting the masterplan for change.
In their heyday these were both elegant Victorian seaside resorts. Extensive bomb damage during the Blitz eroded their appeal but some prized architecture and an array of period properties remain. The restoration programme includes showpiece cultural and leisure venues, new marinas and a makeover of the promenades. Smart apartments with spectacular sea views are coming soon.
Famous for its white cliffs, Dover has been Britain's gateway for centuries, with armies of invaders, migrants and returning soldiers landing on its shores. In searching for a solution to reunite the seafront and the town, which had become a mere adjunct to Europe's largest roll-on, roll-off ferry terminal, planners studied Barcelona, which was so successfully regenerated prior to the 1992 Olympic Games.
An initiative was born called Sea Change, which aims to connect the famous hilltop castle with the refurbished esplanade and provide Continental-style pavement cafés via a "land bridge" along the way. A castle-to-coast cable car is also planned.
"About 14 million people a year pass through the bottom of the town, which is cut off by a trunk road and the large volume of trucks," says Tim Ingelton, head of regeneration at Dover District Council. "The land bridge will make Dover a walkable, connected town."
From £225,000: flats at Western Heights, Dover.
More than 6,000 new homes are in the planning pipeline. The two key sites are the 25-acre Western Heights, an elevated strip of land with some of Britain's most impressive coastal fortifications, and the 275-acre Farthingloe Village, a new settlement that will include a country park.
"Our target market is people who currently live and work in London," says Kevin Dougall of developer Priory Land. "Dover Priory train station is a 10-minute walk and the views across the Channel are breathtaking."
The first phase of 400 new homes is due next year. Prices will start from £225,000 for a two-bedroom apartment and £325,000 for a four-bedroom house. Farthingloe Village sits at the end of a heritage trail being created by the local council.
The housing will be grouped around a village green and neighbourhood shops. Prices will range from £175,000 to £400,000.
Not done and dusted, but it does paint a good picture of Dover - one that we should all aspire to ?
Whether people work in London or locally, they'll spend their money here and we need high-end earners.
Have a good meeting tonight.
Roger
Roger
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Roger - that article was written in 2010, I think things have changed rather a lot since then.
And reads more like a sell off of Historic and important green areas as a panic stricken plan - the investment should be concentrated in town.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i haven't the staying power to wade through the 47 documents so will wait to hear what the main protagonists have to say.
read that article too, thought it was earlier than 2010 - a great eulogy for dover but based on plans far into the future.
land bridge, new marina, cable car etc.
not much in depth research done for the article.
interesting that the issue raised by lorraine about people not actually using dover, just driving to the stations to get the high speed train from'dover/folkestone to london and trhen coming home to dinner and bed is promoted in it.