Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Ross, you are entirely correct.
[it is not going to be of tremendous assistance to keep on about one particular circumstance]
But...
There are no quotation marks in post #1
A great deal of the subsequent/consequent posts have had more to do with the plight of the felon and the shop assistant, not the presence or otherwise of a stop-watch at the scene.
Much of the present controversy is old hat. Much the same sort of stuff has been said about the casual imbibing of alcoholic beverages in public open spaces and the steps taken or not taken to rectify matters. That issue was cleared-up here without upset.
And, yes, inaccuracy may well be regrettable, but nobody should feel obliged to have chapter and verse on every aspect of any comment they make. One should feel free to be entirely (if unintentionally) wrong, but open and ready to apologise for any misunderstanding or inaccuracy.
Our right to free speech is still governed by the reasonable prohibition against any attempt to cry "FIRE" in a crowded theatre. (when there is no fire)
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
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Thank you to chief inspector Ken Elmes for his statement on this issue, while i'm sure we all have had at sometime or other criticism of the Police. I need to say we have worked hard to get them to contribute to the Forum, and are pleased that they keep us informed of what goes on within our town and our communities.
So as PaulB has said caution before we post is a must i'm sure we all agree on that one.
Indeed, thank you for the clarity. Point taken - it matters to get it right and be sure of the facts. I think most of the subsequent posts were indeed more about our corporate gung-ho-ness and willingness to trap a thief. But point well and truly taken on, with apologies if I have contributed to the faff.
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Now that this thread is a little calmer I would like to take the opportunity to thank Chief Inspector Ken Elmes for his very welcoming statement on this matter. Doverforum are very pleased to have the Kent Police on board, common sense and common courtesy must prevail. Thanks to those forumites who have recognised this

Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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It may help all concerned to ponder...
There is something of a yawning fissure between example and explanation into which Alan was bound to step. The crevasse was created, to my mind, by the inclusion of the following phrase in the Police response...
"To suggest that officers were called out whilst they were attending a Christmas party is WRONG..."
Let us, for the sake of argument, hold two things to be true: Mrs.Taylor is entirely honest and truthful. Many Public Servants have a thankless and complex task, The Police Service and the other Emergency Services especially so.
It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that into canteen drudgery comes a little cheer in the current season and that the menu has altered to suit the times. What was a roast chicken dinner is now turkey and trimmings, plum-duff now Christmas Pudding & Custard and that as an added bonus paper hats are available next to the tray-stack. What fun.
Enjoying such fare are two plain-clothes officers and as they are dining a mundane run-of-the-mill and fairly low-priority call is taken at the switch-board. The situation in the street becomes more and more complex and involved over time. The call goes out to these two diners, to the effect;Get your skates on (trouble at mill).
The dutiful pair cram the last mouth-full of pudding into their heads and head for their car. They chew, swallow and chew as they drive and prepare for what is ahead of them. A tricky situation, an everyday occurrence got somewhat out of hand.
[a little local knowledge needed here] These two upholders of the peace may have to park some way from the 'scene' and hot-foot it.
Ever mindful of the need to re-assure the public and perhaps just because they are an affable pair of characters in themselves they make light of the fact of their interrupted luncheon...
Time is an entirely elastic concept. The two minutes or so it has taken you, dear reader, to peruse what I have here written is one thing...to have spent that same amount of time dangling from the nearby snowy-white cliffs is quite another thing.
If only, on this one occasion, Police work had been left to the Police...
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alan
i have had to delete your post, it would be better all round if you contacted kent police direct to discuss your grievance with them.