Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#18
And some people have no respect for other peoples property, it does not matter if the item is worth 50p or £50,000 it is still theft.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Tom is right. The incident could have caused an accident on the road, or an elderly lady could have been knocked down, or a child from its pram.
Guest 695- Registered: 30 Mar 2010
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Alex, take your head out of you know where and get in the real world. What you're saying is complete and utter rubbish as usual, any law-abiding citizen (or shop keeper / assistant) would do whatever was necessary under whatever circumstances arose. And those circumstances you have no idea of.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Jan, you have confused to separate instances.
The talk is about the unreasonable reaction and using violence after having prevented a theft.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Tony "take your head out of you know where".
You too, Tony!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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getting a bit needlessly heated chaps, shall we get back to the issue of citizens arrest and what we can legally do to thieving toerags?
Sarahs post has been clear enough on that, and I would have no problem at all with flinging a thief to the ground and sitting on him until the cops arrived. I have to say I think he might be pleased to see them if I sat on him.........
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Bern, Sarah's post is not all clear enough on that, try reading what the law actually says!
Do you actually know what an arrest is? If people started sitting on other people in the street for an hour, a new mode in response to spending cuts in the Police Force, then I could see myself gently lifting a few people up and allowing their victim to free themselves from what could be a certain death, or permanent injury.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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When I first contributed to this thread before 10am this morning there had been 25 visits before me and I began in saying this...
"I suppose one has to begin by praising the efforts and tenacity of the shop assistant. For it is only right to have in ones mind the knowledge and determination that right is right and wrongdoings have to stop somewhere and having those thoughts and being faced with wrongdoing on ones own doorstep, it is only right that one should act."
I should add, that it is only natural also, to act as he did. BUT Why did he do what he did?
As Alan may have intended all along, the totality of the actions of the shop assistant were as a result of the Police being;otherwise occupied/somewhat neglectful as to the importance of the crime, as viewed by the local population.
Had there been a Bobby on duty in the shopping streets at Christmas things would have been entirely different.
It can ONLY have been less satisfying if the stolen property had been recovered and the shop assistant gone back to work. NOTHING of value, other than blood-lusty satisfaction, has been accomplished by the temporary-amateur-imprisonment of this offender.
Alan was right, from the off. Shame on the Police!
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Alex, have a lie down and come back and re-read.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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One last thing er I concentrate upon the whisky in hand.
Shall the miscreant receive a sentence that is sure to please all here?
Will the shop assistant get a reward for his efforts from his employer?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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getting back to the police response we had an editorial covering a press release from them advising us of a large increase in front line police locally.
let's hope the incident that alan describes is just a one off.
tom
you know very well that the felon will be let off by the courts.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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can't even be bothered to respond to some of the post's. I don't live on that planet.
The toe rag in question could have done with a damn good seeing to, wouldn't have interrupted the xmas party at all.
Why do I get the feeling a certain person is now going to call me naughty.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 732- Registered: 8 Nov 2011
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Well said Ian .
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Naughty?
You can hardly mean me, Ian.
And yet...
If you had your young family out shopping;seeing two men running is one thing. Seeing one beat the blazes out of the other????
Still, as ever...as long as you are happy?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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When I saw your post Vince a picture ran through my mind of the said offender running into you. I still have a smile on my face.
Mince meat or what?
Tom no I didn't mean you and no it wouldn't have been seen in public. shops have rear entrances you know.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i am totally lost here, can someone explain what is actually being referred to?
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,897
Ditto.
I did not know we were talking about anyone being beaten up just being sat on.
Seems we have two forumites who are on the thief's side. How very sad
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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