howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
22:0077559ok melissa, if i should chance to knock on your door in the next hour or so, what trick can i expect from you?
kindly bear in mind that i cannot take too much excitement in my twilight years.
30 October 2010
22:2077568Oh i will take off the out fit then tut tut
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
22:2377572just phoned the cardiac unit, they will be round soon hopefully.
they have to sort out vic first.
30 October 2010
22:2577573Poor Vic
Guest 706- Registered: 25 Oct 2010
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30 October 2010
22:5177589"then theres the pagan aspects we are teaching"
The let us teach them,Keith.
After all it is the true religion of these Fair Isles.
Guest 706- Registered: 25 Oct 2010
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30 October 2010
22:5577592And more seriously.
Please read and remeber
Each year they parade her about, the traditional Halloween Witch.
Misshapen green face, stringy scraps of hair, a toothless mouth beneath her
deformed nose. Gnarled knobby fingers twisted into a claw protracting from a
bent and twisted torso that lurches about on wobbly legs. Most think this
abject image to be the creation of a prejudiced mind or merely a Halloween
caricature. I disagree, I believe this to be how Witches were really seen.
Consider that most Witches were women, were abducted in the night, and
smuggled into dungeons or prisons under the secrecy of darkness to be presented by
light of day as a confessed Witch. Few if any saw a frightened normal
looking woman being dragged into a secret room filled with instruments of torture,
to be questioned until she confessed to anything suggested to her and to give
names or what ever would stop the questions.
Crowds saw the aberration denounced to the world as a self-proclaimed Witch.
As the Witch was paraded through town en route to be burned, hanged,
drowned, stoned or disposed of in various other forms of Christian love all created
to free and save her soul from her depraved body, the jeering crowds viewed
the results of hours of torture. The face bruised and broken by countless
blows bore a hue of sickly green.
The once warm and loving smile gone replaced by a grimace of broken teeth
and torn gums that leers beneath a battered disfigured nose. The disheveled
hair conceals bleeding gaps of torn scalp from whence cruel hands had torn away
the lovely tresses. Broken twisted hands clutched the wagon for support,
fractured fingers with nails torn away locked
like groping claws to steady her broken body. All semblance of humanity gone
this was truly a demon, a bride of Satan, a Witch.
I revere this Halloween Crone and hold her sacred above all. I honor her
courage and listen to her warnings of the dark side of man. Each year I shed
tears of respect when the mundane exhibit their symbol of Christian love.
Bill Angel
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
22:5677593penelope
tell us more about paganism and wicca.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
22:5777594sorry our posts crossed.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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30 October 2010
23:0077595Post 18
30 October 2010
23:0077597Howard, I can assure you that as far as I'm concerned, if it involves going 'sky clad' it can wait until the weather picks up!
Seriously though,
Wicca is a comparatively modern Neo-pagan religion popularised by the slightly barking Gerald Gardner and has about as much to do with the supposed 'old religion' of the British Isles as the Freemasons do with the building of Solomon's Temple. (i.e. half of bugger all)
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30 October 2010
23:0277599Howard,that's just the Samhain bit.
I can tell more for each pagan festival that coveniently coincides with the christian calendar,but I'll post on those dates because once I start writing I find it hard to stop
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
23:0377600i will try very hard not to picture that bob, despite the fact that you might be very kind to children and animals.
Keith Sansum1
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30 October 2010
23:0677601interesting
but we didnt on here wantr to brain wash kids with the christianity religion
yet it seems ok to teach the pagan one?
strange
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Guest 706- Registered: 25 Oct 2010
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30 October 2010
23:0677602Howard,if you're interested this is a good article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain
Not pushing it,just like people to know the history of it
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
23:1177604interesting stuff penny, the forum would be interested to hear more on the subject.
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30 October 2010
23:1377605Penny, witch hunts usually depended on the campaign of some particular which-hunter, usually armed with a licence issued by a church-authority, and included a lot of propaganda to daunt the people. Similar - although to an extent - were the persecutions for heresy, but witch-hunting may have involved extreme brutality, as the accused were often incriminated with charges of causing illnesses or mishaps. Usually, it took only one accusation for a person to be singled out.
I would add, that the term Christian is not appropriate to describe the attitude of the perpetraters of witch-hunting, as they were most certainly not Christian no-matter what they presented themselves as. I think 18th century illumination finally put an end to witch-hunting and persecution of so-called heretics in Europe. And possibly a natural disaster, in Lisbon, where an earthquaque occured soon after a number of Jews were burned in an auto-da-fe. It was considered a reaction from High!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
23:2077610i notice that our susan has been careful enough to avoid this thread, her big night tomorrow.
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30 October 2010
23:3877615#36
Good point,Alexander.
If we leave aside the christian reference I think that it still makes pretty poignant reading.
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30 October 2010
23:4177616#33
Not strange at all,Keith.
It's our history. We don't not teach children about out Kings,peoples and tribes just because they weren't christian.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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31 October 2010
08:3477626Penny
Your obvously into all this, and i'm not and that's fine what I was trying to say was a bg debate was had on here(resulting in 2 members being excluded) when things got heated over exchanges over religion.
I'm more than happy to see any debate on this forum
But anti christian posters were at times giving the indcation of not needing to teach religion in schools, thats a seperate debate, but we have to be even handed on it
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