Keith Sansum1
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tom;
rupert realy struggling and not doing much to save the face of his organisation.
his son james is trying to get him out of the mire but the mp's wont let rupert off
and are ripping into him and won't let him go
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Brian Dixon
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i thought hacking was limated to the horsie ferternaty.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I heard on the radio that someone clouted Murdoch and Murdochs missus stepped in with her handbag.
A guy was arrested and said humourously that in true Murdoch style that'' he was unable to comment (on the attack) whilst there was an ongoing police investigation''
Excellent it's worth doing 90 days solitary for getting that comment aired.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Odds have gone down from 100-1 to 6-1 that the PM will go in about 6weeks.I do not think it will happen but never know,and if he does what does it mean to the UK? Would there be a G/E?or would the now part-time PM take over? or the last one would the blues own MPs vote one in from their own party to take over.? over to you Barry.
Whatever happens to any of them their departures will only create a void which will be filled by someone else. We all need to get a bit real!
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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It is very unlikely that Cameron will go as there is nothing at all tangible that he has done wrong. His contacts with NI, after all, have been less than the previous government.... It was revealed yesterday that Brooks visited no10 over 6 times a year with Blair and Brown there and not at all since Cameron was installed as PM. Other myths and rubbish that has been said in an attempt to undermine Cameron has also been demolished as a result of yesterday's hearings. Cameron's position has strengthened in reality since yesterday.
In the unlikely event that Cameron goes then a new PM will be elected by MPs who can command the support of the majority of the House of Commons. That would certainly mean someone from the Conservative ranks who can get the support of the LDs. There would be a lot of backroom deals going on demonstrating, yet again, just how bad coalitions are for democracy. If a new PM cannot be found who can gain the support of the majority of the House then HMQ could dissolve the Commons and call an election.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i don't see dave going on the basis of this scandal, it will just taint him in the eyes of the public.
barry points out that ms brooks visited no.10 many times when blair and brown were ruling but not when dave was.
seems rather odd that they had meetings in private houses.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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All that seemed to be gleaned from yesterdays inquisition was the disparity in payments; before and after the much of the details became public.
Press, politicians and the police having to cover their tracks is going to make the discovery of the truth more difficult.
I wonder what the implications are between the recent trouble of the clock in bail situations and the fact that Mrs. Brooks was arrested before questioning?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Howard - Cameron is an old friend of Brook's husband who is not in the media. Hence their having some social contact. Rubbish about them going riding together and owning race horses together has been demolished as complete bunkum. Even so why on earth should anyone be condemned because someone they know and has socialised with may be dodgy? Blimey - I know you Howard so am I guilty by association?
Jan Higgins
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This whole awful hacking business seems to be getting a bit out of hand now. We need a new distraction for the media circus to get their teeth into.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That is the looming sovereign debt crisis Jan. Sadly it is more than a distraction and is very dangerous to us all. At the moment it resembles Nero fiddling while Rome burns.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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However bad that gets it will not be enough,Barry. The distraction will have to include celebrities to satisfy the media.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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you've dropped yourself right in it now barry, admitting to knowing me.
any future attempt to join a lodge will be scuppered.
getting back to dave and ms brooks, it would have been wiser to have invited her to downing street so that there is no suggestion of doing anything on the quiet.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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On the NI setting up of an independently run compensation fund for the victims of the hacking.
Why is it for individuals to come forward to seek their compensation?
There must be a list of victims, how else could any determination be made of who is entitled to a pay-out?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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ANDY COULSON;
To say mr cameron is clean over all this hacking saga is clearly NOT the case after today in the commons he apologised for appointing any coulson.
Also most unusual but now the royal family has also come out strongly in its disgust at cameron appointing mr coulson
very strong words being used by the royal family.
This episode has seriously damaged mr cameron, which ever way you look at it,
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Appointing Coulson does not equal dirty hands over hacking, unless Coulson did that while in Cameron's employ and there is absolutely no suggestion of that - Besides let us not forget even Coulson is innocent until proven guilty.
Your over enthusiasm to blacken Cameron really is showing Keith.
I am amazed that anyone can simply brand someone guilty simply over association, some very strange values are on display. Either that or political hypocracy given the Labour PM's links with NI and the NoW, while the hacking was actually going on... Then we have RedEd's rather dubious employee, more will come of that to be sure if you want to play this particular game Keith. It is a no win situation for you. As I have said this is not really a party political issues at all and the only guilty people are the hackers and those who conspired with them.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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To be honest nobody is going to come out of this untarnished. Lets hope in future they will record meetings with the media whether on or off the record.
As for the police they have let us down terribly. The amount of CRB checks that we have to go through in order to get a job in the sewers is unbelievable but they failed to realise the type of implications that could be drawn from their relationships with the media bigwigs.
It doesn't matter that there was nothing untoward in attending say a spa where one of these 'guys' just happened to be a director it demonstrates a lack of foresight and error of judgement.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the police have definitely come out worse, i have no problem with press and the police scractching each others backs to keep eeach other onside.
selling private information to the press is downright criminal, with or without the data protection act.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Keith, I don't think it was so much Cameron apologising for appointing Coulson but saying in hindsight he wished he hadn't done it (the implication being he wouldn't then have to be standing in Parliament justifying it) and if Coulson, who is so far innocent, was found to have lied then he would apologise. And it wasn't quite right that the royal family had been disgusted at the appointment of Coulson, it was an undisclosed informant from the royal household talking to a reporter, and No 10 and Buck Palace both later said there had been no communications between them about the matter.
There's a lot of mud slinging going on at present, and some of those doing the slinging might be regretting it after the police and public enquiries are completed.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Weird or what, on the news last night I spotted that my old Illustrated London News office (which was owned by the Times Group) is now the Serious Fraud Office, what goes around, comes around.