Gay Marriage vote
- 5 February 2013 19:28213852139 Tories voting against, 132 Tories voting in favour. So, with abstentions and against votes, that's more than half the Tory Parliamentary party.
- Brian Dixon
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5 February 2013 19:31213854and good for them. - 5 February 2013 19:34213856let's be honest nobody has come out of this looking good, probably find most of the reds voted for it just to embarrass the government.
i have not seen one opinion poll that just asks gay people what they think. - Keith Sansum1
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5 February 2013 19:36213858I actually think the mouse is right on this one,
gay groups have always been pushing for it
now the wounds of the party as neil says with so many against it will open upALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 5 February 2013 19:42213865churches, mosques etc will not carry out wedding ceremonies so what has actually been gained? as said ealier in the thread there is very little difference between a registry office affair and a civil partnership. in fact both sound the same to me.
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5 February 2013 19:49213870you mean some howard
there are a number quite happy to do so(churches)ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 5 February 2013 19:56213875i would be surprised if that was true keith, i heard that some progressive synagogues were ok about it but not any others places of worship.
maybe some of our church going members would let us know what they think and why? - Brian Dixon
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5 February 2013 19:59213877more methodists churchs howard,they seem more libreal than the rest. - 5 February 2013 20:04213878not the way i am reading it brian, they don't seem to have a problem with homosexuality among their flock but will not sanction marriage at this stage.
http://www.methodist.org.uk/news-and-events/news-releases/methodist-response-to-proposals-on-same-sex-marriage - Brian Dixon
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5 February 2013 20:08213879it seems like swings and roudabouts to me howard,but to pin it down to one spot,it sounds like its down to the vicer. - Keith Sansum1
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5 February 2013 20:36213884From a little bit of investigation
it appears quakers, unitarian church's, more liberal jew groups, are all welcoming the idea
then we have
The Bishop of Salisbury
Dean of Southwark
and 5 former bishops
all welcoming the newsALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 5 February 2013 20:48213886not surprised about unitarians and quakers keith, not sure that the trendy bishops and deans represent the views of their customers though, they lost a lot to the left handers over female clergy persons.
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5 February 2013 20:52213887oh dear howard
im trying to be unbiased and tell you there are some out there happy to go through all this and have been strong in promoting itALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - Jan Higgins
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5 February 2013 21:45213894A sensible outcome, maybe the media will now concentrate on more important things.
It would be interesting to see how the other parties voted, I assume some of the opposition were against or did they all vote like sheep.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 5 February 2013 22:17213898In the March Budget Cameron could give them a tax break...................
- 5 February 2013 22:30213900When is the vote to exempt sanitary wear from VAT?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 6 February 2013 00:13213903Marriage is between man and woman.
It cannot be otherwise. The idea of changing the meaning of the vocabulary to fit political party campaigns is absurd.
Here is an explanation on the vocabulary side:
Marriage derives from French MARIAGE, which in turn derives from Latin.
The original Latin word MARITARE, meaning to marry, introduced the nouns: MARITO and MARITA, meaning husband and wife.
Marito is masculine, marita is feminine.
Nouns referring to persons refer to either masculine or feminine persons.
Only politics in its most absurd form could attempt to legislate in contradiction to established vocabulary meaning.
A husband can only be masculine, a wife can only be feminine.
Anything else has nothing to do with marriage!
Now back to politics
boohooo 
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6 February 2013 08:07213914alex,get real,the way your talking all gay people should be behind bars permantly. - 6 February 2013 08:22213918Only in gay pubs, Brian!I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson