Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Not so much the legal people as the enforcement section, with the back-up of legal.
Roger
Keith Sansum1
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Tallking to one of the council officers he tells me the legislation and lack of staff are the problem/
it appears now after all these years the council is pushing through legislation and soon hopefully to have enforcement officers with powers to do something.
but as the officer says in the mean time the problem exists.
heres a good one,,,,,,,
the officer informed me after many calls to many houses with an interpreter(imagine the cost of all this)
the interpreter said the other nationalities dont want to comply
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not so much legislation keith as just tightening up on the rules.
the enforcement officers duties will not extend to the folkestone road problem, they will be stamping down on uncleared dog toffee, littering and fly tipping.
they will be busy enough in the town centre i doubt they will go outside of it.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Reading rogers posts, he's the opinion that folkestone road is included
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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two totally seperate issues keith.
roger refers to enforcement in a general way, the new jack booted enforcment officers have a different function.
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The council has always had enough staff to snoop on waste bags in Castle St to ensure that small businesses are not trying to sneak trade waste into the domestic collection.
But then, small businesses are soft targets.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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So are the general public Peter.
Folkestone Road and the surrounding roads, are now being targetted by all sorts of DDC departments and agencies.
There's no more carrots - they've all been eaten, next, it's just the stick.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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ROGER
agreed
now it's time for firmer action
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Well dun roger more stick required,
As these cultures build networks and imbed themselves, there way of doing things will try become the norm.
The residence of Dover won't like it
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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roger;
im interested to know what action(stick) the council is willing to do? or are they?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i have been to most eastern european countries including what was czechoslovakia.
all of them were a lot cleaner than the u.k. so it is not about cultural differences at all, more about the individuals we are lumbered with in the priory area.
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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Once again Roger well done an I do hope you are receiving the full backing of the other ward councillors both Town, District and County. Howard in his post 91 is correct in saying it is not cultural but individuals that are creating the issues and that is who DDC should be targetting.
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The biggest complaints of roam camps all over the word are generally untidiness
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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very true keith but the priory area is for people to live in houses and act accordingly.
the problem seems to emenate from the citizens of one country.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Discussed this week in parliament by the immigration minister, the ethnic cleansing. Of roam and others from East Europe.
There governments giving them one way tickets to the UK.
Lots of them ending up in the costal towns especially Margate.
The question is why would an EU government be inviting its citizens to go to another country??
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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in the days of asylum seekers the czech and slovak governments were running campaigns to promote the benefits(sic) of living in our fair land.
when our people got onto them about it they then promoted canada.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Following up on Keith Bibby's post, I found that in the Czech republic, after the sixth child, there was a possibility that Romany women could unwittingly be tricked into signing a piece of paper, even thought they couldn't read or write..
From the Guardian 2005
"Having kept silent for years, Bolvanova and dozens of others have now united to demand an apology and compensation from the Czech government for allowing doctors to sterilise Roma women without their consent."
"Human rights groups have begun to unearth alarming reports that doctors and social workers are still pressuring gypsies to be sterilised..."
"Gypsy society values large families, and infertility is shameful for both women and men. Most victims of forced sterilisation say their partners soon left them for other women."
English society also values large families, which may explain why the Czech and Slovak governments give one-way tickets to England. C'est plus facile
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I've never seen or read anything that says that English society values large families - where did that come from Alexander.
Why have large families if you can't afford them ? Why expect the State to pick up the tab ?
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Folkestone road has suffered enough as a dunping ground over the years,
it's now time for action
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Couldn't agree more and action is now being taken.
Roger