Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,883
3 December 2010
21:1883134Interupting you boys and getting back on the subjct.
Does anyone know when the pavement from the Town Hall up towards Cherry Tree are going to be gritted. One of our volunteers helping the shop manageress to the shop felll over twice today, he now has very sore ribs and she hurt her knees when she fell on top of him.
Not good enough KCC

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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
3 December 2010
21:3483137i don't know of any pavements that have been gritted, thankfully the gritter lorry passed my house 2 hours ago.
we were all starting to think that one of us had bad breath or something similar.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
3 December 2010
22:0183143paulw
i understand where your coming from but as howard says nigel is supposed to be the kcc member but im sure we can find another thread as the issue wont go away
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
4 December 2010
08:4183172Surely the Community Pay-Back teams should be called in to help clear the snow from the pavements - in Town, up Folkestone Road etc. etc.
I read today that at least 50% of offenders are spending their community pay-back time working in Charity shops - can you believe that ?
Working for the community out there in the snow and ice; it's a punishment for goodness sake - or should be.
Roger
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,883
4 December 2010
10:1283183Age Concern have not had any community pay-back offenders.
Some of them would find it too much like hard work carrying all those boxes and black sacks up and down the stairs.

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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
4 December 2010
11:0283192The Community Pay Back team have helped with decorating at Riverside
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
4 December 2010
11:0783194crabble corn mill availed themselves of their services too.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,883
4 December 2010
11:1483197Sorry Sue I meant to say the Age Concern Shop, there are no stairs at Riverside are there.

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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
4 December 2010
11:1583198agreed roger
but that doesnt get away from the fact local councils should have done there bit and failed
and still no word from nigel
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
4 December 2010
13:1683205Now I look forward to Watty posting flood warnings from the Environment Agency.

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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
4 December 2010
13:2583206All Victoria line trains from Dover have been cancelled until 14:45 at the earliest
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
4 December 2010
14:0883208the transport minister has been highly critical of south eastern trains over the lack of information for pasengers.
he will be speaking to the rail regulator and the operator will be hauled over the coals for their poor performance.
action will be taken, but no details what the action is likely to be.
4 December 2010
14:1783209No changes there - I have spent countless hours waiting for information after a train "breakdown" or some other unknown reason for a train stopping and us poor passengers being hauled out to wait on a boiling/freezing/wet/uncomfortable/poorly furnished platform. I realise it isn't the fault of the guys at the coalface which is why I don' t take it out on them, but the cascade of information is appalling and unnecessary in todays techie age.
Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
4 December 2010
14:5783212Don't forget that actual train running times can e found here:-
http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/en/s/ldbboard/dep/DVP
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
4 December 2010
15:1283215To be fair to southeastern I have had no issues with them, perhaps because I have so many of their employees as friends and acquaintances.
Equally any train operating company is reliant on Network Rail maintaining the infrastructure and ensuring it is operable - many of the delays and cancellations have been caused by infrastructure issues (iced up conductor rails, frozen points, failed signalling) rather than train failures
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
4 December 2010
15:3683217My youngest lives in Canada, there they have a local by-law that it is compulsory to clear the pavement outside your house of snow and to salt it in 24hrs, everyone helps the people who are unable to do it the sick,disable etc and every street has a salt bin. They might have to do it 3 or 4 times a week as they have snow continually for about 4 - 6 months of the year. But at least it is safer to walk along the pavements. They do have more practice than us of course, but maybe it would be a good idea.
Schools rarely close either, but that might be because most attend their local neighbour schools.
4 December 2010
15:5483219There is something about how we live and work, isn't there? I work miles away because that is where my type of work is. I guess I have chosen to live in Dover, because I love it here and because my family is now embedded - but even so, it is worth looking at how our working lives have evolved and why so many of us work at a real distance from home. Ditto schools - we are lucky (in some respects but don't get me started.......) that our children have attended and are attending local schools, but many are not so fortunate. There are times, I have to admit, though, that I wish we had gone with one option and paid for them to go to Canterbury. We agreed that they should go with their friends rather than schlepp to Kings. Socially they might have done well, but as for the rest.............hmmm..................
4 December 2010
16:0783225Your right Bern, maybe we do need to look at how we live and work, but do relise that is not also a choice with work. yes we have had a few bad bouts of snow last couple of years, but we hadn't been getting it every year, maybe we will in future if so new plans must be drawn up and plans that can be implemented fast. We are lucky, we are a friendly set of neighbours here, we all help each other, but bet there are some who don't even know who lives next door.
My son has learned to live and work with the snow there, winter tyres, carrying shovels, grit and carrying extra warm clothing and snacks in the car are a must, mind you the average winter temp there is between -15degs to -25degs!!
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
4 December 2010
18:1783233Fantastic
- London Road is now starting to flood as the storm drains appear to be blocked
- no doubt caused by the grit spread on the roads
- huge puddle spreading across the road outside my house (I am on the raised pavement fortunately) with the consequence that every time a car goes through it a sheet of water sprays across the pavement and my house frontage
- If this carries on the folks in the basement flats across the road will be getting the sandbags out again
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Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
- Posts: 3,205
4 December 2010
18:2383235Tell me about it Ross,as I walked past your place about 11.00 car came speeding up the road,and I could see the drivers pleasure in driving through the lake,problem was I was on that raised pavement and got totally soaked from head to foot
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!