Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The camera is, as far as I know, still there somewhere and so is local awareness. The morons who do this won't take any notice of a local Councillor going into a school - they're probably playing truant anyway.
You're right though, the problem won't fix itself.
Roger
Keith Sansum1
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Its the raising awareness bit roger
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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DDC should offer £1000 reward for information leading to arrest and conviction of the guilty parties. It must cost them at least that much every time it's repaired.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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I support Peter`s reward idea,like terrorists we must not give in to vandalism.
In our Parishes playground equipment is vandalised,are we to let children suffer due to the actions
of the mindless few?CCTV is helping and the vandals are being dealt with.
Some children of dysfunctional families will always be a problem,we must persevere and tackle the problem.
Folkestone Road needs all the character / heritage still in place,if we do not persevere we will all be the losers
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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good posting Reg
To true not to give up
and to more on the awareness front
getting the message across often helps
but unless you try you will never know
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Better than doing `nothing`or giving in.Head in the sand attitude never works.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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It's often said that one definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different outcome. Surely constantly repairing the shelter without taking steps to guard it against vandalism is a good example?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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that's true peter but I think iv given views on a positive way forward some time ago and again in recent posts
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Was it the only shelter of its kind when the trams were running? If not, an alternative might be to relocate it to another (safer) site in the town which is historically accurate? Putting it in the Transport Museum would be a nonsense unless that museum were to be moved to a more sensible location.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the security camera was supposed to be the answer, clearly not though.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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how was it managed?
was it in right place?
what is the feedback?
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Adding to Keith's list...........
How long was it there or is it still there?
Was it ever working?
Was the picture quality good enough to identify a vandal without any doubts being raised?
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Sigh...
I would like to say that DTC has a track record of 'squaring the circle', and finding innovative solutions to the most intractable of problems.
And if the seafront toilets/retail outlet were up and running, I would say just that.
But surely these two issues have a great deal in common? Had the toilets been left to 'fend for themselves' - as the shelter has, there would have been much the same outcome. But no, a solution has been 'found'. The toilets have been given an additional function, a constant and positive utility...
...and so should the shelter.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Tom Austin wrote:The toilets have been given an additional function, a constant and positive utility...
Sigh...
But are still not available to use.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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hey, this is the tram thread lol
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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oh I thought it was about the tram toilet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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many suggestions have been made about the future of the tram shelter, tom insists that a bench would curb bad behaviour. having re-assessed the situation this morning perhaps a sprinkling of bar stools would be more appropriate?.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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made my suggestions
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the idea is catching on as the nearest bus shelter shows, maybe time for the licensing authorities to consider making our shelters dual purpose?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I know that in America, some parts certainly, you can get cash for your empty aluminium cans. Homeless people are often portrayed with shopping carts full of such cans on TV.
Come to think of it I haven't seen out local 'knights of the road' trawling the streets for car batteries and the like lately, they too performed a worthwhile job.
So, maybe your local tow-path-tipplers would not do this, but some enterprising folk might. I know one lady in the States that collects cans to give the resultant cash to her favourite charity.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
