Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Perhaps we all need to calm down, and perhaps try to not see the absolute worst in people. Often when we go about expecting the worst, the worst is what we get...
Man ordered out of bed by 18 armed police for having a television remote
http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/06/man-ordered-out-of-bed-by-18-armed-police-for-having-a-television-remote-3914362/Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Remotes can inflict a lot of pain, Eastenders Big Brother Gordon Ramsay etc etc
Audere est facere.
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Prisoner Offered Job By Company He Burgled
""It just occurred to me that we had an obligation at some point to give someone a chance and give someone an opportunity.
"I thought he was an intelligent guy. I thought he actually, ironically, had a lot of integrity but I think he hasn't had a tremendous mentor or a sponsor in his life who could guide him down the right way.
"It is a risk I know, but it is a better way than him reoffending. He feels nobody cares. It's worth a chance, it's worth a try."
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/prisoner-offered-job-company-burgled-152244595.html#zksMIUK Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i have read through post 62 from martin and still cannot see any mention of noel edmonds.
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To return to the original thread, Karen has received a letter from Kent police to say that a [name removed] has attended court and received a 12 month community order for the damage to the bird tables. Well done Kent police and thank you to Jollys for your continued support for The Riverside and the gift of the magnificent bird cage for the centre's budgies.
Keith Sansum1
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Ken,
There must be a slight distaste where, really this woman ha got off.
We are stuck with an outdated, full prisons, poor legal system.
Often judges are blamed (or magistrates) when they have to abide by the laws/guidelines set.
Under careful eyes of Social services or such people, this woman should have had to do the 12 months by working to improve the Riverside area
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Jan Higgins
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At least she will be punished and maybe [name removed] will have to help Riverside Keith........... that is if Karen even wants her help.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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ms vermin has got off lightly, wrong message being sent..
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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That's what I thought Howard
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"BIRCHING - quick and convenient"
"Young criminals when caught, often claimed to be younger than they were and sometimes gave different names on different occasions to avoid harsher penalties of several convictions. Birching was a quick and convenient way of treating these cases, though a child caught in the act of stealing oculd be given a month or two in the House of Correction for the first offence" (Kellow Chesney "The Victorian Underworld")
1917 Edward Gardner, 10yrs, was given six strokes with a birch .Crime:Petty
robbery at Samestone School. (ie near Margate, Kent) His 13 yr old brother was sent to a reform school until he was 19 yrs old for the same offence.
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Birching was still fairly common in the fifties, but the practice was soon to be outlawed, it ceased on The Isle of Man in 1966, if memory serves.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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very rarely see the actual bird feeders being used but the little house was the subject of attention yesterday.
Guest 973- Registered: 17 Jun 2013
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I think, with respect, people are making a lot of assumptions about [name removed]. It would be a lot more useful to consider that not everyone gets the same start or breaks in life, and she may not have had the care and attention that we take for granted.
It's much more productive to not be judgemental (whilst not dismissing whatever it was that she did) as surely everybody deserves a second chance.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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She has been given a second chance. a community order is just that.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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What a shame to resurrect this thread that is over a year old. I wonder how many others like myself had forgotten about this unfortunate incident and the lady in question, all Matthew has done is remind us all about it.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Matthew has effectively warned us that this woman has completed her 'community sentence' and can now behave as she wishes again.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 2833- Registered: 3 Sep 2018
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I think that every one in life makes a mistake, i also think that the chances are that most of the people that have posted here, will have made mistakes in their life , yet projecting now calling another person , whom they do not know scum.
The problem here is the bird tables, it's what the causing the person to do what they did, so [name removed], should have had support to help her, some of the reactions here just adds fuel to the fire already burning . So hopefully the order did help beki in the art of giving back-
Everyone fights a battle we don't know off? Yet everyone deserved a chance to mend their ways.
We have all made mistakes in life.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I hear what you say Paul but iv been at meetings where a family was causing mayhem in the community and given all the help by all the agencies
But nothing changed
Worse still the family were all prison bait even with all this help which they abused
Sometimes we forget there are victims in all this as well
They often get forgotten by do gooders
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Guest 2833- Registered: 3 Sep 2018
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There person in question here made a mistake, and it wasn't to the extent of prison bait.
By naming this page "Dovers Scum"
What does that do to the person whom reads it ?
It is sad when there is help offered, and that ends up abused, but some times some of the wider of problems are equal and it's shared a responsibly for things to work. With the case of bird tables this was a one of occasion, it should be noted that person paid back their dues.
It's is hard to accept but some other people are not ready to change or they don't want, that is when of course victims have to be proctected
