Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
4 February 2010
22:1239670Paul I agree that Dover does not have a divine right to be the largest ferry port in Europe, it is something that has to be constantly worked at and invested in. On principle I agree with the need to continue and if anything speed up the development of the port and its related activities, as these should increase employment opportunities, attract further people to the town etc. I am just a little cynical of DHB's plans and their sell of proposals.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
4 February 2010
22:1639671paul
we may not be the only place with a coastline, but we are the only town along here with the draught that can handle todays ferries.
will have to wait for our edmund to give his view on this.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,673
4 February 2010
23:0439678But these days, building out into the sea isn't a problem, just look at airports in China to see what can be done...
Give it another 20 years there will be talks of another tunnel or even a bridge !!
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
- Posts: 1,388
5 February 2010
16:1039700Building out into the sea is very much a problem, it costs a lot of money. DHB wanted to build Westport in Shakespeare Bay but it would have cost double what filling in the Western Docks will. For the same reason, there is about as much chance of Ramsgate or Folkestone replacing Dover as of Lydd Airport replacing Heathrow. Calais is in the fortunate position of having shallow water outside the present port with a tapestry of sandbanks immediately offshore, should they decide to progress their plans for constructing a new extension to the port.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
- Posts: 4,150
10 February 2010
14:4240189The former Marine station and area is a monument to the laid back, short sighted DHB, who have let it go into such a decrepit state over the YEARS. Derelict looking, stinking of pee in the past, a gateway to England, and if privatisation sorts that out, then privatisation is the way forward. I`m not going into the politics of jobs, profits etc here, but despite the critisicm of the privatised railways, they`ve been modernised to such an extent with privatised capital that British Rail could never dream about. The golden age of the railway in this country, has been pre-war, and we`re in a new one now, with more of the network up for electrification and modernisation. I would be interested to hear if somone can think of something that British Railways/Rail could be remembered for.
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10 February 2010
17:1540198Dirty trains that didn't run on time, with a management dancing to the tunes of ASLEF and the other union. Good riddance to those days.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
- Posts: 1,266
10 February 2010
17:3440203Amen to that Sid
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
10 February 2010
19:1040219sadly i can remember rude and surly staff.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
- Posts: 2,438
Well done DHB, the jobs it creates will be a significant boost to the area.
Audere est facere.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,563
So no ferry terminal at the Western Docks now?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
the business editor at the bbc pointed out that there had been no mention of how the development would be funded.
charlie seemed guardedly enthusiastic.
tim waggott was upselling it hinting at a harbour revision order as providing the funding.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
Definitely good news.
Maybe they'll look at EU funding - we're linked to Calais and Northern France so should be eligible.
Now all we need is the DTIZ to lay it's first brick.
Roger
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,897
I thought the Chinese were funding most things at the moment.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That's just Chinese Whispers Jan !
Roger
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Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
- Posts: 622
Another exciting project for Dover and demonstrating the port's ability to respond to changing market conditions. This will substantially augment the port's reputation for the import of fresh produce, as well as realising the long held ambition to create a new marina as part of the regeneration of the waterfront. Now is the time for the community to get behind these plans.
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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Shame BBC South East got the wrong end of the stick! The port is not proposing a container terminal that would compete with London Gateway and Felixstowe. The Dover cargo terminal is primarily involved in the reefer trade in fresh produce.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Typical some good news and it gets twisted. Dover are experts at the reefer trade and know the market.
Audere est facere.
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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I hope a case of basic misunderstanding on the part of the reporter, Martin. As you say, Dover is already one of the top three ports I believe for the reefer trade with a "fruit boat" at the cargo terminal most days of the week. Dover does compete with Portsmouth and Southampton for this trade. The container ships that will use London Gateway wouldn't fit through the entrance to Dover harbour!
