Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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My wording was not that good and there is a miss understanding I was not about the filming of the highlights,I was on about the match .Anyway over and done with I was not there unless you see the whole of the match you can not tell by just 10mins of it.
Karlos- Location: Dover
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FA Cup draw - away to Guernsey on 28th September.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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must be the last thing the club needed with the costs of getting the players and coaching staff there.
Karlos- Location: Dover
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Guernsey have to pay - something like this -
"Providing the cost of flights, accommodation and transport, of 25 members of the opponent's team and the 3 match officials,
give its opponents half of any net gate receipts without taking into account the travel and accommodation costs."
Guest 753- Registered: 23 May 2012
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I think it was a similar thing when I went to watch the Dover Rugby team play Guernsey a couple of seasons ago.
If I remember rightly the RFU paid the travelling for players and backroom staff. Not sure of the figures.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I know nothing about Guernsey or their team,but Dover need to draw or win to get a few bob in the bank but more than that the supporters will turnout in their numbers to see that match,yes me being one of them.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Dover playing tonight lets hope they turn the tables around now and play well and get a win under their belt.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well it will be very wet up there tonight,but the match ground wll take it,it is one of the best grounds might even be the best it will not cut up like alot do. I do not expect many to turnout Manchester on the Tv will not help.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Dover keep this up the numbers will be down to around 200 even on a Saturday the return of a manger that has been there before has not worked indeed it is wost now then it was before.
Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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It rained all the way up, stayed dry for the match and that was the best bit of it. Only one word to say "DIRE" and it rained all the way back.
We never looked like scoring in fact I cannot remember a shot their keeper had to save, where our keeper Mitch was our man of the match tells the story in one. To add insult to injury Ademola picked up his second bookable offence and got sent off, controversial was not the word, he was taken down and looked to have twisted his ankle badly but the ref said he dived. Never known a player to twist his ankle just to get a free kick. Mind you his first booking was silly he kicked the ball into the goal after the whistle had blown.
Another game gone and it is not about the players not trying it is about tactics, style of play and playing as individuals and not a team and that is all down to one man. Yes we all thought Kinnear was to be the one but he id living in the past thinking what he done in the 90's is good enough now and it's not.
We are at Bath on Saturday, loose that and I think the writing may be on the cards for Chris and some of the players.
No I will not be at Bath as I have the quiz night at the Mill Saturday night and that is the only reason.
Vic they have quite a good ground but no where near as good as Crabble.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I am sorry to hear you talking like that Harry I know what Dover means to you and what you and others do for the club.And you are right you can not turn the clock back the manger needs to go now so there is time for a new one to come in try and keep Dover from bad to wost. I do not know even if there is just a manger out there looking for a new club but that is what Dover needs .
SWWood- Location: Dover
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Harry posts a lot of sense on here, but I disagree on this occasion. We must give the manager time to turn this around, which I am sure he will do. We have gone through too many managers in recent years, and by now should know that getting a new man in is no guarantee of success.
There are other teams who (like Dover) had a big turnover of players and staff in the summer, and have made slow starts. I'm thinking in particular of Chelmsford and Ebbsfleet, whilst last season both Sutton and Eastleigh had terrible starts only to finish very strongly. I know things don't look great at the moment, but I am sure it will turn soon. One thing I am certain of is that the chairman Jim Parmenter has the club's best interests at heart, and I expect he will back the manager. All the time Chris Kinnear is manager of Dover, he will have my support.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I hope you are right it would be very sad to see Dover drop away anymore.
Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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Hope you are right as well and of course I will give Chris my support. I just do not like what I am seeing on the pitch with the long ball, no use of the wings and certain players just not being up to the game and by that I do not mean not giving 100% I mean that there are some who are just not good enough for this league
Last night I came away gutted for the third game in a row, certainly Sutton where a team we could and should have beat. they were far from being a good team but we could not keep the ball and their keeper did not have one real save to make.
I do not like calling for a managers head but Chris has to change things and does not look as though he has any thoughts or ideas on how to. I will always support the club but Vic is right in that a lot of people will not pay £10 or £13 to watch rubbish and the club can not survive on crowds of three or four hundred.
Still we will have to wait and see and I really do trust and hope Chris pulls it round.
COYW
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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well lets hope it is local.Both clubs would have done well if played in Dover.but with Dover playing so bad right now I do not think that it would draw a good gate but it could have afew weeks ago you would be loo
king at 1000+ but not now.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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musical managerial chairs sometimes gets immediate results because of players worried about losing their first team place but rarely succeeds in the long run.
how many games ago is it that chris kinnear was lauded as a genius, can't be more than 8?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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That was only said by some not all. Me being one of them,just because I did not know if he would make a better manager or not I had a open mind about it. I like football but its not the end all like some .So it is easy for myself to moan but that is only because the high cost of watching a bad match. But we must not think that Dover is one of the top clubs because they are not ,they have one of the best grounds and that is about all .it maybe time to go full time paid players or drop back to non paid players and stay local in Kent ,the club have done this in the pass and had alot of the public watching I am going back to the days when we would get 3000 up there just to see Ashford up there ,they could drop the cost of geting in to about £5 which would bring more of the public in and also give local players to get in a better team .
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The club could build up a good team with local players good for the club and good for the players and good for the supporters,we could all go to the home andway matchs because they will all be in Kent.Let the club go back 30years and start again building.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i must admit that it would be nice to see home grown young lads turning out at crabble rather than the mercenaries.
may not produce the highest quality of football but would bring in more supporters if the admission price reflected that.