Guest 1555- Registered: 23 Jul 2015
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Thanks Howard. I cannot think what the solution will be. No one seems to give a damn about the situation, and it seems too little too late. I still believe the danger of the immigrant invasion will come from the sea. With a sprinkling of terrorists among them too. Then no one will be able to stop them. I feel sorry for these people, I really do. But too many and Britain will be swamped with their numbers. Maybe now the Turks have realised the danger and have let the Americans use their air base, things could change. The Kurds, and that includes their brave 'Warrior Women', are the only people with guts enough to face these religious fanatics on the ground. They love their land and are fighting for it. I hope the Turks and the world powers that be. Will recognise the Kurd's determination to erradicate this terror from the world, and supply them with what they need. I know these people will not turn and run like the Iraqi's did. It is horrific to think that it took only one automatic rifle on a beach in North Africa to kill thirty soft-target tourist Britians who were not a danger to anyone... But this is what the world has to deal with now. When people realise religion has its evil side too they will think on their beliefs more deeply. Religion is what humans have made it nothing more.
I have been in Dover since coming over from India in 1947 when all the British nationals had to leave. I went to St Mary's School in Queen Steet Dover, which no longer exists. I do not like the changes being done to the Dover seafront by people who do not really have the town's people at heart. I used to play in the rock pools with my twin brother under the prince of Wales Pier and had my first job in Dover painting the wrought iron legs, which are now filled in with concrete.
I feel a sense of loss at what The Dover Harbour board is contemplating. If the Yacht Marina is moved out of the inner harbour and into the bay it will become just another rubbish dump. It is obvious that big business is moving in against the wishes of the Dover people.
I worked at the Dover Harbour Board for thirteen years on the small boats before I retired in 2003 as a survey and environmental cox'n. The last ten yearssurveying the bottom of the harbour and its approaches. I know the tides and the bottom better than my own hand...and a lot of silt moving out there. If they fill the Granville Docks in, where I used to help unload fruit boats in the good old days. It will just become another huge lorry park in the future.
I also think the small boats are open to abuse by the swarms of immigrants coming over from France and further afield. With fewer customs, once the immigrants twig there is another way in they will take it. I have been to sea in three Merchant Navies since 1959 and have always believed Britain, being an island should have had a container fleet Merchant Navy manned by british sailors, the best in the world, trading with its Commonwealth. The Greek fiasco has proved the politicians cannot be trusted,nor the big Banks, to have any intrest in the working people of Britain, only in themselves... Who owns the town, is it business interests in Europe, the Harbour Board, or is there a hidden agenda. What is the plan for the Western approaches from Shakespeare Cliff to the Admiralty pier. QUESTIONS have to be asked and honest ANSWERS given. Already European countries have huge interests in our utilities and other, used to be publicily owned, businesses. We may as well not had a war, not when we are being slowly taken over by foreign interests. Britain was once a country to be proud of and brave people defended its honour and died for it. I am seventy-seven years old now and retired. I still remember the gaps left in the high street by German bombers, and those Dover people whomust have lost their lives there. Just what did my father and those brave people fight for? I had the honour of sailing with two or three merchant seamen in the fifties and sixties, who had actually been in the water a number of times after being torpedoed. Over fifty thousand seamen died and thousands of our Navy, Airmen, and Army died for our freedom. Will the young remember them when those left are gone. I no longer free free any more, only a sense of foreboding for our younger generation.
Guest 1555- Registered: 23 Jul 2015
- Posts: 29
It is going to get much worse before it get better, and you cannot just throw money at it.
I have been in Dover since coming over from India in 1947 when all the British nationals had to leave. I went to St Mary's School in Queen Steet Dover, which no longer exists. I do not like the changes being done to the Dover seafront by people who do not really have the town's people at heart. I used to play in the rock pools with my twin brother under the prince of Wales Pier and had my first job in Dover painting the wrought iron legs, which are now filled in with concrete.
I feel a sense of loss at what The Dover Harbour board is contemplating. If the Yacht Marina is moved out of the inner harbour and into the bay it will become just another rubbish dump. It is obvious that big business is moving in against the wishes of the Dover people.
I worked at the Dover Harbour Board for thirteen years on the small boats before I retired in 2003 as a survey and environmental cox'n. The last ten yearssurveying the bottom of the harbour and its approaches. I know the tides and the bottom better than my own hand...and a lot of silt moving out there. If they fill the Granville Docks in, where I used to help unload fruit boats in the good old days. It will just become another huge lorry park in the future.
I also think the small boats are open to abuse by the swarms of immigrants coming over from France and further afield. With fewer customs, once the immigrants twig there is another way in they will take it. I have been to sea in three Merchant Navies since 1959 and have always believed Britain, being an island should have had a container fleet Merchant Navy manned by british sailors, the best in the world, trading with its Commonwealth. The Greek fiasco has proved the politicians cannot be trusted,nor the big Banks, to have any intrest in the working people of Britain, only in themselves... Who owns the town, is it business interests in Europe, the Harbour Board, or is there a hidden agenda. What is the plan for the Western approaches from Shakespeare Cliff to the Admiralty pier. QUESTIONS have to be asked and honest ANSWERS given. Already European countries have huge interests in our utilities and other, used to be publicily owned, businesses. We may as well not had a war, not when we are being slowly taken over by foreign interests. Britain was once a country to be proud of and brave people defended its honour and died for it. I am seventy-seven years old now and retired. I still remember the gaps left in the high street by German bombers, and those Dover people whomust have lost their lives there. Just what did my father and those brave people fight for? I had the honour of sailing with two or three merchant seamen in the fifties and sixties, who had actually been in the water a number of times after being torpedoed. Over fifty thousand seamen died and thousands of our Navy, Airmen, and Army died for our freedom. Will the young remember them when those left are gone. I no longer free free any more, only a sense of foreboding for our younger generation.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The interesting bit for me is the chap from Sudan who did get into the UK but got deported to Italy to try again. The French authorities claim to pull out about 1000 people a day. We must be the only two countries that say "you're nicked, have another go later"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/27/migrant-camp-fortress-calais-junglehoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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How self defeating can people be? Drive away the UK tourists will drive many small businesses to the wall.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.htmlhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yet another night of anarchy resulting in a fatality, surely it is time for the army to be sent in?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33699141Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
that was needed like 3 years ago.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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120 police being sent to Calais, didn't say whether they were specially trained riot police, I still think the Army(French or British) is the only answer.
We have listened to continued bland utterances from politicians but not one site visit from the Prime Ministers or Home Secretaries of either country. We have villages in Kent cut off from business during the two months that they expect to be profitable.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
2 batlions 1 from each country,live ammo issued.
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
- Posts: 513
Since January the number of migrants in Calais has risen from 600 to 5000 and a total of 170,000 have been registered as arriving in Greece and Italy, so I ask where are the other 165,000? I have yet to see a single migrant on the roads of Europe and I have been to every corner of it since January so I can only assume they are travelling by rail, coach or in the back of lorries although I do know that many hundreds of thousands make their way to Germany each year.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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This is a classic, the all powerful EU that have caused a lot of the problem, now say they can do nothing and individual states will have to sort out the mess. How about asking for our money back that they take from us?
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/news/commission-we-can-do-nothing-40950/Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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that would hardly solve the camping issue howard,what it needs is a round up of campers and fly them back to a camp near to the country that is suspected where they come from.any eu paper work revoked and burnt.
Guest 1555- Registered: 23 Jul 2015
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There seems to be a massive shift in population from Africa and neighbouring countries. Most of those causing it are from radical Islam. Most who are suffering it are from the people of Islam and Christians who are mostly peaceful people. The execution of Christians in Tunisia seen on video, and the recent murderous execution of British tourists on the beach near there should bring home to the world at large the threat faced by extreme religions...and some not so extreme.
Britain is is crisis as far as these immigrants are concerned and so are all countries in Europe. Some as far North as Norway and Sweden. I never thought I would see the day when Britain would be invaded by desperate people seeking another lifestyle who are in the process destabilising the countries they are fleeing to. People are starting to hate each other. It is about time the people who started all this were brought to task, which includes some world powers who are interfering for monetary gain.
Europe is beginning to fragment-ate. I was never a believer in the European Union anyway. I saw it as a great opportunity where politicians and now Commissioners could increase their numbers and their well paid jobs 'paid for by the taxpayer' significantly, which has proved me right. Big business too has prospered to the disadvantage of the working people, which includes the future prospects of the young.
People should have foreseen what would happen to the world when religion was allowed to increase through the indoctrination of the young at an early age. Indoctrination, which is still going on in Faith Schools of all religions, some with physical coercion. Indoctrination which bodes ill for the future. Religion allows people of a radical disposition to change the rules and rituals of their religion to suit the occasion, even to killing the unbeliever.
What I can never understand is...nearly all religions worship the same God! I ask what God can be so cruel as to rape young girls and treat women as though they are slaves and breeding machines. Why dictators write little books then force their people to live by them. Why people would worship one man as though he were a God, and him not even thirty yet. All who inhabit this world- including the animals- have the right to be heard...and to live their lives in peace together without 'Holier than thou' people telling them how to live...no no matter of what ideology. There must be a rule of law, but never to the disadvantage of those who are trying to live their lives in a peaceful law biding manner.
It will take at least five generations to cleanse the minds of the young from the evils of religion. You only have to look at the ideologies today to see where the human world is going... War, Famine, Disease, and Death, with Greed galloping behind as the fifth horseman is our future if we follow the path of Evil. The irony is... This blog is written by an Atheist who has 'Seen the light' rejected religion for what it is, whether for Good or for Evil. Religion is nothing more than an indoctrinated belief in the Supernatural manufactured by man to gain control of men...It is about time we all became wiser and realised that fact. People are entitled to believe what they like as long as that belief does not impinge on the lives of the young before they are old enough to learn for themselves what is right and wrong. Most of the adults of today who are in positions of power...Religious or otherwise, either have not seen the danger to young minds or feel the need to go on controlling them for reasons which are beyond me. I am old now and taught myself to look upon this world as a beautiful place, which it was until human beings evolved to inhabit it, maybe others should do the same. If people want peace in their country they should fight for it and not run away from it. The Kurds are doing it and that against the bombs and technology of a cruel modern Turkey. I will keep writing until I drop, because that is the only sword I have left. Some one once wrote the word is mightier than the sword. I do not think he meant religion... This writer has not finished.
I have been in Dover since coming over from India in 1947 when all the British nationals had to leave. I went to St Mary's School in Queen Steet Dover, which no longer exists. I do not like the changes being done to the Dover seafront by people who do not really have the town's people at heart. I used to play in the rock pools with my twin brother under the prince of Wales Pier and had my first job in Dover painting the wrought iron legs, which are now filled in with concrete.
I feel a sense of loss at what The Dover Harbour board is contemplating. If the Yacht Marina is moved out of the inner harbour and into the bay it will become just another rubbish dump. It is obvious that big business is moving in against the wishes of the Dover people.
I worked at the Dover Harbour Board for thirteen years on the small boats before I retired in 2003 as a survey and environmental cox'n. The last ten yearssurveying the bottom of the harbour and its approaches. I know the tides and the bottom better than my own hand...and a lot of silt moving out there. If they fill the Granville Docks in, where I used to help unload fruit boats in the good old days. It will just become another huge lorry park in the future.
I also think the small boats are open to abuse by the swarms of immigrants coming over from France and further afield. With fewer customs, once the immigrants twig there is another way in they will take it. I have been to sea in three Merchant Navies since 1959 and have always believed Britain, being an island should have had a container fleet Merchant Navy manned by british sailors, the best in the world, trading with its Commonwealth. The Greek fiasco has proved the politicians cannot be trusted,nor the big Banks, to have any intrest in the working people of Britain, only in themselves... Who owns the town, is it business interests in Europe, the Harbour Board, or is there a hidden agenda. What is the plan for the Western approaches from Shakespeare Cliff to the Admiralty pier. QUESTIONS have to be asked and honest ANSWERS given. Already European countries have huge interests in our utilities and other, used to be publicily owned, businesses. We may as well not had a war, not when we are being slowly taken over by foreign interests. Britain was once a country to be proud of and brave people defended its honour and died for it. I am seventy-seven years old now and retired. I still remember the gaps left in the high street by German bombers, and those Dover people whomust have lost their lives there. Just what did my father and those brave people fight for? I had the honour of sailing with two or three merchant seamen in the fifties and sixties, who had actually been in the water a number of times after being torpedoed. Over fifty thousand seamen died and thousands of our Navy, Airmen, and Army died for our freedom. Will the young remember them when those left are gone. I no longer free free any more, only a sense of foreboding for our younger generation.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Good old Dave he never lets us down. His idea of solving the situation is more fencing to cut through and more sniffer dogs to find migrants on lorries who will then be released straight away for them to have another go.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33729024howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the UK and France asking for help from other EU countries which is hardly likely as migrants arriving in Italy are given free rail tickets to France and upon arrival there given free rail tickets to the channel ports.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33750336howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,655
I am going to have a minor rant after all it is a Monday morning.
Can someone explain why we have not used one of the defunct military bases with their security fencing to house all the illegal immigrants that have been arriving for the last few years. They could be run in a similar way to the camps we had during WW2 but more friendly and the illegals have to stay there until they have been processed.
At the moment we put these illegals up in hotels, give them money and let them wander wherever they want so they can simply disappear into the general population.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
there is a softer alternative.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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On first reading it seems all very harsh fining truckers in the present situation but only 7% are UK based. The report doesn't say how many of the fines on overseas hauliers are paid.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33781283Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
- Posts: 513
The government raised £6.5 million in fines last year, so as 3000 migrant were caught in trucks at £2000 a time perhaps they all paid up. As nearly all British trucks are secured prior to Calais and others aren't I once again reiterate NO TRUCKS TO ENTER CALAIS PORT WITHOUT BEING SECURED. The capitols are intentional in the hope Charlie will persue his pre election support for this measure and informs the government. There is the thought that perhaps this revenue stream is what is paying for the new fencing in Calais.