Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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23 February 2011
22:3393951#1
Should we really have sympathy for those British subjects working in Libya and now wanting to get out fast? They went there of their own accord, they were not forced. They went to earn good money, and in a lot of cases big money and probably tax free in a Country that they knew full well was run by a tyrant. They were certainly not forced to go out there or to work for peanuts the attracting is money.. No problem with them going there, no problem with them wanting to earn a fast tax free buck and certainly no problem with them wanting to come home, but listening to some of them on the news moaning about the flights not getting there quick enough and blaming the Foreign Office gets my back up a bit.
I take it the tax payer will be paying for their great escape back to their homeland or do they have to pay or the Companies they work for, for the flights?
Keith Sansum1
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23 February 2011
22:3693952#2
harry
i understand where your coming from
but some go there because of the uncertanty of jobs within the uk.
but yer your right about the sudden want to be british when things go wrong
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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23 February 2011
22:4193953#3
perhaps it is more important to note the actions of our foreign secretary?
every other nation seems to have rescued their people, billy boy keeps rattlng on about a plane on the runway that keeps breaking down.
are we as a nation down to relying on one iron bird?
i hadn't realised that the deficit was that large.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 February 2011
22:4593955#4
Why would we not have sympathy. They are working in a major British industry, one that employes a lot of British people. They go where there is oil and where their companies send them. Good luck to them.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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23 February 2011
22:5593957#5
The price of oil is already rising. This is going to cost oil-importing countries a lot of money! It could lead to a double-dip recession!
Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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23 February 2011
22:5593958#6
They do not all work for one British Company Barry and lets not kid our selves they are there to earn big money and yes good luck to them, but sorry I do not see why they should have a go when it all turns sour.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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23 February 2011
22:5693959#7
just a pity that the foreign office that has let them down.
if the reds had still been in power you would have slaughtered them barry.
Ross Miller
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23 February 2011
23:0693960#8
Harry - how would you feel if the roles were reversed? i.e. you were out there and someone back home was typing what you did?
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Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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23 February 2011
23:3693962#9
I may have put it badly but I am not saying they should not get home Ross of course they should, I just do not see why they should be having a go at the Foreign Office for not getting them out quick enough.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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23 February 2011
23:3793963#10
Governments do what they think people expect them to do in such circumstances. We were in Riyadh when our government were evacuating people at the beginning of the Gulf War in 1991. We stayed and had the most fascinating experience of our lives.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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24 February 2011
02:1093967#11
Once again, I sincerely hope that Libya does not fall into chaos and anarchy, and I do not think that there have been unfair discriminations in the distribution of Libya's economic wealth.
I don't even know who is supposed to be threatening foreign workers in Libya.
Jan Higgins
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24 February 2011
08:0393973#12
I do not think anyone is, they might get caught in the crossfire if they are on the streets. I know I would not want to stay in what is almost an internal war zone.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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24 February 2011
10:0393986#13
We should certainly help those workers in Libya. Their location has been ransacked by looters, all food and all supplies taken, they are in fear of their lives. Just because they are overseas on a job doesnt make them any less like who and me.
These guys in desperation had a go at the Foreign Office Harry but so has everyone else...including all the leading newspapers, our one plane developed a fault!!? Jeez! William Hague foreign secretary has also come in for some severe criticism, firstly he cant or couldnt get that plane off the tarmac here for hours and hours, which was very third world, and secondly he had already saiid to the media that Gaddafi was on his way to Venezuela...incredible clanger that one and not good. Even the Daily Mail is giving the performance a kicking.
24 February 2011
10:2293989#14
Absolutely! I cannot understand why we would not sympathise with and rescue British workers abroad. Working abroad does not diminish their Britishness or label them as anything but hard working. It is the ultimate Get On Your Bike act. And Hague has been truly inept, so has rather merited the bashing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 February 2011
10:5793990#15
thankfully the evacuation seems to have started now, an oil company chartered a plane for it's employees.
why the government relies on one plane is quite extraordinary, an inquiry is to be held over the issue.
to my mind they should have diverted planes from malta and italy.
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24 February 2011
11:4293998#16
We will be getting rid of our second car soon. It has been most useful but not necessary !
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 February 2011
12:5794002#17
the foreign secretary has taken a bashing over all this, but the deputy prime minister has escaped unscathed.
as we all know dave is in the middle east which leaves nick in charge.
nick is on holiday!!
24 February 2011
21:4194064#18
I think the point of all this business of people working in Libya is a bit of a red herring.
What it really has highlighted is the incompetance of her majesties government to provide support and assistance when it is needed.
It does not need to be oil workers it could be any group of british subjects who by the look of it will have to rely on other friendly governments to provide protection as they surely cannot count on there own government.
I mean it is farcical for this lot to scrap the nimrod programme and the like in the name of greater efficiancy. Greater efficiancy to do what?? Let its people down just when the people need them most.
Forget all this nonsense about it being greedy oil workers and concentrate on the fact Her Majesty's august government could not arrange a simple charter flight to pick up its subjects in there hour of need.
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The best we could do in maritime terms was to divert a ship that was on its way back home to be scrapped. "RULE BRITIANIA"
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 February 2011
21:4494066#19
it was a shambles jimmy, you are right.
even turkey and bulgaria were miles ahead of us, maybe we should be renamed turkey?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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24 February 2011
21:5494070#20
The government is under no legal obligation to rescue citizens from the consequences of their own overseas adventures. When we refused to be repatriated from Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War, we were issued with a gasmask each. When the dust had settled we were billed for 4x£90=£360. I didn't pay it on first demand so the embassy spoke to my employer and it was deducted from my pay. Anyone who is brought home from trouble spots will be billed for the cost.
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