Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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We've read (or skipped) your diatribes Reg.
Here's a post from an MEP, to balance it up.
Nirj Deva DL MEP Conservative Member of the European Parliament for South East England and former Member of Parliament for Chiswick Brentford and Hounslow
"I wept when I heard the news that Margaret Thatcher was no more. I wept for the passing away of a friend who had been immensely kind to me over my political career. That is quite natural but my tears were for something more.
Margaret Thatcher was unique, not because she was Britain's first woman Prime Minister, not because she virtually, single-handedly transformed a nation, not because fearlessly and tirelessly, she turned a bankrupt, strike ridden, nanny state into being at the forefront of global economic success and not because she valued freedom over serfdom, monetary and fiscal discipline over debt and individual rights over state dominance, but because she was beyond anything else a great human being.
That Margaret Thatcher was enormously kind, extremely caring, concerned and considerate are not characteristics associated in the popular mind with the "Iron Lady.' Behind that facade of cool aplomb, steely blue eyed looks and indefatigable determination lay a very gentle soul, almost motherly in her attitude with an innate insight into what each of us, individually, were capable of and could attain.
This scared some people but others, like myself, were for ever empowered by her.
I remember the occasion when, in 1987, having lost my first general election in Hammersmith by 2004 votes to the sitting Labour MP, I received a telephone call from the then Secretary of the Carlton Club, instructing me to stand next to Disraeli's old chair while the Prime Minister was delivering her speech, given on the eve of the State Opening of Parliament. Bemused by this request, but grumblingly acquiescing, I stood with my mother and sister who had come over for the campaign from Sri Lanka, listening to a triumphant speech by a Prime Minister returning to Government with a thumping majority of 102 seats, spearheaded by Norman Tebbit and Michael Dobbs' with the slogan "It's Great To Be Great Again".
Much to my astonishment, immediately after her speech she made a beeline to me, fixed me with that famous look and said: "You are NOT giving up." I stuttered "Prime Minister, this is my mother". Taking my mother's hand she smiled at her and said even more firmly "He is not to give up" and walked on.
I was astounded that in the midst of forming a new Government, attending to thousands of demands and decisions, she had taken the time and care to arrange that meeting, knowing how I must have felt having just lost. I and others have countless similar stories to tell of the Margaret Thatcher that neither the press nor the public know. Now that she has gone to a better place, I have no doubt she will be doing what she does best; caring".
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The problem is Roger that the idiotic left actually believe the myths they created however far from the truth and reality. It is good to see such memories of her as Nirj recounted above to remind us what she really was.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Pass the sick bag.
"I and others have countless similar stories to tell of the Margaret Thatcher that neither the press nor the public know. "
How dare the Electorate not fall-in and elect this chap, or perhaps way back then they knew that he would spend most of his time in secret conclave of reminiscence.
It's not the bum you know that matters in modern politics, but the bum you kiss.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i prefer his other name mr r slicker, doubtless he has never visited or lived in one of the communities destroyed by her actions.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Keith s. is dying to chip in on this one but he's nailed his Tung to Maggie's gun carriage
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Wasn't this wonderful woman dismissed as leader of the Conservative party? I imagine that somehow it will have been Labour's fault
Audere est facere.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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No Martin, she stood down. Just to be accurate.
Watty
Brian Dixon
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no paul forsed out by fellow cabinet people,you know the saying beaware the eyes of march.got stabbed in the back like ceaser
Keith Sansum1
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There are very divided opinions on this lady so as iv said before I will steer clear of this thread
that is of course unless posters on the right continue with all the so called good work she is supposed to have done.
Many of those on the right are giving a very slanted viewpoint
but because we are talking of someone who has passed on i shall at this point refrain
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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kieth,she was no lady,only a she devil.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 63......spot on Tom.....sorry out of bags ....all used up here.
# 67......tell it to the marines......you desciples must know them ( marines ) very well.....it`s the way you tell `em`
Everyone deserves a dignified funeral......but a Full Military Funeral is outrageous.....................
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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In respect of the lady passing on i shall refrain for now
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I new that would winkle you out from the barricades Keith ,
you cannot leaving old tom to battle on letting all them torys cover Maggie's in white wash
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Reg Hansell wrote:
Everyone deserves a dignified funeral......but a Full Military Funeral is outrageous.....................
The military certainly will not agree with you...
She is the most important and influential British political figure since Churchill. She has had a major international impact and is admired on a global scale. Anything less than a full ceremonial funeral would disgrace this country. Glad to see HMQ will be attending and that is a mark of the esteem in which she is held.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Tom ......got to buy more bags.............................
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Keith
I commend your restraint. There is much that could be said but I agree that this is a time to "leave the dead to bury their own dead"
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Thank you Mark
As an active trade unionst all my life i hold differing views but realy dont feel this the right time
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Paul Watkins wrote:No Martin, she stood down. Just to be accurate.
Watty
Stood down like when a football manager leaves on a "mutual agreement" they wanted her gone and she went.
Audere est facere.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Go on Keith you old bugger have a poke .Maggie's loved a punch-up she wouldn't holed it angst you
