Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
taking about the A20 its backed up past samphire hoe,allso havoc on the aycliffe roundabout.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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the aycliffe round about needs traffic lights on it,the way viechles hurtle down it is unbelievable.besides that they could be used to contoll hgv's at that junction to stop the rest of it being blocked up all the time.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
It was originally January Karlos.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
Brian makes sense coming into Dover, what do you think the effects would be on outgoing traffic? Lorries climbing up the hill after coming off Limekiln roundabout?
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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It would lead to tailbacks on Townwall Street and no doubt increase air pollution as they pull away from the lights? Paul what impact on queues are you expecting when then the passport checks of all leaving UK through Dover are introduced?
Audere est facere.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
Reducing the lorries to one lane coming into Dover and enforcing existing traffic laws should help, yellow boxes at traffic lights being an example.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Jan, the key word there is 'enforcing', something which seems to be absent from traffic police vocabulary. Not a single truck driver was ticketed for breaking the overtaking ban on the westbound A20 when it was in force for an experimental period. Yet it still happened regularly, as many of us who sat fuming behind an HGV doing 35mph up the hill will remember. Not a single driver has been ticketed for breaching the 'keep clear' areas or box junctions in Dover, as far as I know. And I recently heard that the police don't even attempt to enforce the 40mph limit on Snargate St because to do so would 'be too dangerous'. Much as I am against enforcement cameras, there are places where they are needed, and the A20 through Dover Town Centre is one of them.
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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It is expected to cause delays according to DHB. That is the reason for the suspension of the A20 Townwall St works until at least the effects are gauged Martin. This is one of the main topics of debate for Feb 18th.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
paul.traffic lights to be controlled dock bound,west bound to run free,unless there is a rtc in that direction.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
just come back on this thread to say that the pinch point at aycliffe is causing tailbacks along snargate street and beyond,due to highways putting it there in the first place.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Yesterday I came out from the seafront across the swing bridge heading for York Street but couldn't turn right at the PoW roundabout because they had put cones in the way. So I had to go left, same problem at Limekiln roundabout so I had to do a U-turn at Aycliffe and join the queue. I wonder how that helps the traffic flow.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
......got it in one peter.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Dangerous enough just crossing the road by the swing bridge, the trucks move so fast.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Peter I agree completely there seems to be a complete resistance to enforcing any law wherever the lorries are concerned which could raise a lot of money as so many of our laws are broken on a regular basis.
The foreign driver know they will not get nicked unless they cause have an accident so why worry about getting caught.
My daughter was going to take her grandaughter to the seafront and De Bradley the other day but decided against it because of the reason you give above and the traffic problems.
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Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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I went down at 7pm yesterday, a flatbed truck was almost blocking the exit from Woolcomber St to Townwall St, only cars could squeeze past. Met someone at 7.30 who told me it was still there.
Am I just being cynical in saying what is the point of the talks on 18th when the folks who live here and know the causes also know the answers, at least the short-term ones, which are well described on here?
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
Of course you are right Ray. The reality is that none of the above solutions can be enacted without these people meeting & agreeing them, which in the first instance they have to accept there is a problem. To many of them Stack has gone away -job done. This is the first time the routine traffic management problems Dover faces has been given a priority. I have to say even KCC did not accept it as a priority until this episode.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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I like the suggestion by Mike Tedder in today's Dover Express - shut the port down completely, either by agreement or in the French way, then once Operation Stack reaches inside the M25 solutions will quickly be found.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Interestingly, the point about the M25 was made on Monday.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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There are ports around Dover that could be open again how many times have I said this in the pass even with work done Folkestone, Ramsgate could again take lorrys,cars,etc.One of them could even be for lorrys only
