howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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reg should change the thread title, after all we are nearly into the second year already.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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maybe the last of the 2 years lol
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy The Times..............right wing pressure...?
Tories tell Cameron to scrap gay marriage Bill
David Cameron has been told by his own MPs to junk the gay marriage Bill and cut overseas aid
in an effort to halt the UKIP bandwagon. Tory MPs warned the Prime Minister that he must attend
to the party's "home base" swiftly to prevent more core Conservatives deserting to Nigel Farage.
Sir Gerald Howarth, the former Defence Minister, said that his constituents were "fed up to the back teeth"
with the Government. He challenged Mr Cameron to adopt a five-point plan that encompassed
taking Britain out of the European Convention on Human Rights, doing more to cut immigration,
triggering a prompt EU referendum, freezing the aid budget and scrapping the gay marriage Bill.
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Are our Politicians who have committed sexual offences and or sexual illegal acts ``vulnerable``?
and if so are they a security risk or worthy of holding Office.?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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looks like the right wing of the tory party will push party to the right or rip each other apart
moving to the right will though make them unelectable
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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dave won't lurch anywhere he will do just what his advisers tell him to do without listening to back benchers or traditional supporters.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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If thats correct it will be his downfall
lord lawson telling dave to pull out of the EU on news tonight.
Could be start of his downfall
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Coalition running out of steam? Key measures dropped from Queen's Speech over differences
between partners
Tories shelved plans for minimum unit price for alcohol and plain cigarette packaging and Lib Dems
pronounced 'snooper's charter' as dead
Queen's Speech: Policies once championed by the Coalition conspicuously missing from the list of new laws
The Coalition Government was accused of running out of steam today as differences between the
Conservatives and Liberal Democrats led to several key measures being dropped from the Queen's Speech.
Two years before the next general election, the two Coalition parties began to diverge earlier than expected
as behind the scenes tensions between them were exposed.
They will have to present their final Queen's Speech of the five-year parliament in a year's time and
one minister admitted: "I don't know what we will have left to put in it."
Today's package saw the Conservatives shelve plans to bring in a minimum unit price for alcohol and
plain packaging for cigarettes as they tried to focus on the economy, welfare and immigration ahead
of the 2105 election while avoiding measures that alienate voters.
Also omitted were a statutory register of lobbyists and Nick Clegg's plans to allow constituents
to force a by-election when their MPs are guilty of misconduct.
The Tories refused to enshrine in law the Coalition's target to raise spending on overseas aid to 0.7 per cent
of gross national income. Although the Coalition will meet the goal, the decision means future
governments will not be bound by it.
Mr Clegg had described such a law as "a priority" for the parliamentary session which began yesterday.
Aid groups warned that the world's poorest countries would be unable to plan ahead for levels of UK assistance.
The Lib Dems pronounced as "dead" a Bill to allow the security services to track emails, text
messages and internet use, dubbed the "snooper's charter." It was omitted from yesterday's
Speech after Mr Clegg objected
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Wounds are opening up
The mouse wont put up with small fry cleggy much longer
the mouse has his right wing MP's wanting him to move to the right
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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kieth,its called in party fighting.no good to man or beast.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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its also brian other complications such as;
a; right wing of tory party wanting mouse to move more to the right, cameron knows he will become unelectable if he does
b; cleggy being a pain to the mouse, but the mouse knows he cant go ahead without cleggys support
c; the two coolition partners are on collission course and it cant be covered over much longer, the principles/belefs of the two
parties are poles apart.
d; while they dither the country suffers
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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I heard on the news last night that the word 'Europe' was carefully.eliminated from the Queen's speech because the coalition partners could not agree on the topic. Not that it's much of an issue,Europe?Eh?Pathetic.
Then we have our Prime Minister attempting to hold the nation to ransom by saying "oh Er get me in next time and you can have an in/out referendum". Sounds a tad familiar Dave.
Come on guys this a bit Mickey Mouse isn't. It really does make me think that the days of the Westminster governmental style we are witnessing are pretty much numbered.
Roll on Localism.
Never give up...
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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there are few problems in government at the moment,could there be a election looming soon.all it needs is a private members bill of no confidance.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Richard Moffatt wrote:I heard on the news last night that the word 'Europe' was carefully.eliminated by the Queen's speech because the coalition partners could not agree on the topic. Not that it's much of an issue,Europe?Eh?Pathetic.
Then we have our Prime Minister attempting to hold the nation to ransom by saying "oh Er get me in next time and you can have an in/out referendum". Sounds a tad familiar Dave.
Come on guys this a bit Mickey Mouse isn't. It really does make me think that the days of the Westminster governmental style we are witnessing are pretty much numbered.
Roll on Localism.
Spot on Richard
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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there won't be a vote of no confidence from the blues brian, too many would lose their seats if an election is called.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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from across the house howard,the reds and others could do if not should do it as soon as.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Stay in the EU.It`s clearly in our interests.Europe inn`t perfect but we would be wrong to
leave the World`s biggest trading bloc.There is a strong case for reform but we must stay in.
We cannot negotiate if our neighbours think we are heading out the door.
3,000,000 jobs depend on our trade with the EU.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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a referendum from any government is zero,not now,not next government not ever.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Ed Miliband to rule out promise of a referendum on Europe
Ed Miliband will today reject calls for Labour to respond to the rise of the UK Independence Party
(Ukip) by promising a referendum on the European Union.
Addressing the Blairite group Progress in London, Mr Miliband will say: "Our national interest lies
in staying in the EU and working for the changes that will make it work better for Britain."
Criticising David Cameron's promise of a Europe referendum by 2017, he will say: "It is wrong now
to commit to an in/out referendum and have four years of uncertainty and a 'closed for business'
sign above our country. Let me be very clear: we will always make decisions on these issues
in the national interest."
His remarks suggest Labour is unlikely to offer a referendum in its 2015 election manifesto, a
move favoured by some Labour MPs in order to neutralise Mr Cameron's pledge. Mr Miliband's
aides insist a final decision will be taken "in the national interest" closer to the election.
Mr Miliband will describe Ukip as a "party of protest" after its success in this month's local elections
while insisting that Labour is a "party of solutions". He will ridicule Mr Cameron for allowing
Conservative MPs and ministers to vote next week for an amendment to the Queen's Speech
regretting the absence of an EU referendum bill. Labour will join the Liberal Democrats in
voting against the amendment.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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reg we are a nett importer, nobody in their right mind would stop selling to us. the only job losses would be bureaucrats.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Well the divides are clear
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