Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Yes to both Carole, I worked on the construction of the Marlow we could see from
Day 1 big problem with the seating, then small orange seats cost the taxpayer £500 each shipped in from Italy. Theirs 1000 of them.
The build was 26 million taxpayers money ,and not one counsel official involved in the ba---up sacked .
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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lara,i am for the memoral but the housing.still in two minds about the hotel/conferance center.
ps,i live on the seaward side of the hill,[aycliffe].
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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keith b
theres also the problem of getting people in and out of the(marlowe)
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Lara, you must have misread the sentence.
What I proposed, was a memorial for the villagers of Bradden who chose to remain in the village and not spread the plague.
Alec Sheldon- Location: Dover
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Alexander #30. We already have a memorial to "all British seaman who sailed the seas" on the seafront opposite the Gateway flats.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I thought that was a memorial to the Merchant Navy in the 2 World Wars, Alec.
I was thinking along the lines from 1500s onward; after all, the British Empire was built on the toil and dedication of generations of seamen, and that is also how so many British people settled in North America, Australia, New Zealand, and southern Africa.
Surely you will agree that Lord Nelson didn't carry a pair of binoculars, but used a device designed for one eye only. His dress was also rather different to the one the officer above is wearing, starting with the admiral's hat.
Good try, though!
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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In two years time we will be commemorating the 100th anniversary of the outbreak of World War One. Most other European countries have large memorials already, or at least in the planning stages while the French and Belgians preserve the war graves of far too many of our fallen in the two conflicts that tore apart the continent. Troops from all over the commonwealth fought and died alongside British troops in the defence of our freedoms. Nowhere in the British Isles are all those names commemorated. There is a forces memorial that commemorates the names of our troops that have fallen in the Korean conflict and all the other wars since.
Where better to show our respect for the sacrifice of so many than above the White Cliffs that were the last sight of so many and were celebrated in a song known to all and that became almost a symbol for so many of World War Two?
My own surname will appear 28 times on the proposed walls. How many times will your own name appear? It is a monumental sacrifice that affected every family in the Commonwealth, do we not owe it to them to commemorate their sacrifice?
On the practical side, Dover (in particular Dover Castle) is seen as, at best, a day trip destination. With such a memorial on the Western Heights we would have something that would attract visitors from around the world and a great many of them would stay to visit the castle and maybe learn something of Dover's history. The proposed National War Memorial represents both a debt to the fallen that should be paid and an opportunity for Dover that we can not afford to miss.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Hi Chris , this is a genuine question how would the proposed memorial differ in role and function from The National Memorial Arboretum ?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Great posting Chris - couldn't agree more.
Once again we're missing a golden opportunity and once again, the biggest obstacle to Dover's progress, is English Heritage. They need to wake up.
Roger
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Sarah, the National Memorial Arboretum caters for campaigns & fallen after Second World War, I believe.
Watty
Thanks Paul , I just checked thier website it was down earlier it is to quote them
"The National Memorial Arboretum was conceived as a living tribute to the war time generations of the twentieth century and as a gift to their memory for future generations to reflect upon and enjoy."
A national all ages War Memorial would have to be vast ,
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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ROGER;
Although your correct english heritage fail to make inroads on tourism
your own admittance your tory administration also has failed misarably on tourism
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that's right keith not all down to english heritage.
Where as the previous Labour MP did a fantastic job ? Please can we keep to the development not relive the class wars of the 20th centuary , unless this forum becomes a memorial to them
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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This thread is a very interesting read. There are some great postings with so much passion and personal input on such a sensitive subject. There is absolutely no doubt that it will require oodles of respect and careful consultation to strike the right balance. Its very clear that if the Heights are to be developed then it should only be done in a manner that dosen't destroy them altogether. Surely English Heritage will take heed and soon.
Alec, seeing the photos above reminds me of the great chat we had that day, would be nice to catch up again soon
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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sarah
just pointing out a fact, that roger(and this is body for present news not past as the administratiuon is still in place today) has admitted his administration fails misarably on tourism.
nowt to do with any war, just blaming one body for the wrongs is incorrect
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That was exactly my point Keith !
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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sarah
nothing to do with mp's, more about tourism budgets at council level.
Again , this is a thread which I will leave to others
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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sarah p
please read post 53
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