Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,875
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
assuming we could be heading for a 2017 election to clear the decks , who could UKIP run in Dover ?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
As they have just suspended their main benefactor from the party I cannot see them fielding many candidates.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,075
Bring it on!
Don't forget two years ago this week, Labour were polling 34-36% and they still lost!
Latest Poll
Con 45%, Lab 26%, UKIP 10%.
Meanwhile, in a parallel universe, Diane Flabbott (the Mother of our Nation) has been at the Kool Aid already:-
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/diane-abbott-interview-labour-party-jeremy-corbyn-general-election-a7635706.html"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,075
Dangerous words Reg. Remember Stompie Moeketsi . Just saying.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,257
Dangerous times Captain, dangerous times!
Wasn't Stompie a grass?
Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
This has all the hallmarks of a nightmare with Tory candidates given constituencies they never win in then finding a load of talentless MPs that will grovel to Mrs May as they owe their position to her. Rather reminiscent of 1997 when Labour swept to power. I listen to Diane and her cohorts talking about the mass membership and the shed loads of dosh in the coffers to fight an election as if they really think they can win. Jezza points out his popularity on social media not thinking that in 2015 it was all UKIP and many of their online supporters expected to gain power.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
then I saw her face,then switched channels.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
I see douglas carswell has quit ukip,now an idipendant.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
To things stand out, firstly Carswell never looked comfortable in UKIP, it was just a career saving move at the time. Secondly Farage acts as spokesperson for UKIP yet again rather than the actual leader.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/douglas-carswell-ukip-quit-resign-party-only-mp-independent-farage-latest-a7649516.htmlNeil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,299
UKIP and Farage are inextricably linked, whether they like it or not. The truth is that UKIP needs Farage, to be relevant - whereas Farage needs UKIP, to be relevant!
Seriously, Farage clearly needs a political vehicle as he is nothing more than rent-a-quote at the moment. Conversely, whenever there is a right wing issue, everyone's first though it "what does Farage have to say about this?" rather than "What does UKIP have to say about this?
Personally, I would be most happy to see the back of them both!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Much as I admire for Farage for changing the agenda of UK politics he has now become a parody of himself, pontificating on anything and everything just to keep himself in the headlines. His disciples hang on his very word and if he passed water through their letterboxes and told them their roof was leaking they would nod approval.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
UKIP will keep putting up candidates to split the labour vote.
I think big business and the Tory party miss one thing on their addiction to cheap mass immigrant workers.
Immergrunts don't vote Tory. One day they may just lose the lot.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,075
Keith Bibby wrote:
I think big business and the Tory party miss one thing on their addiction to cheap mass immigrant workers.
Interestingly Japan's overall population is expected to
drop from 127m to 92m during the next 40 years.
Japan, of course, like most people know but will not admit, does not particularly like foreigners (foreign population resident Japan <2.5% - Mostly Chinese/South Korean) yet enjoys a higher GDP than us and the lowest crime rate in the industrialised world.
Japan, instead of importing swarms of cheap foreign labour, has invested heavily in automation (robots don't need either housing or their children educating) to do the 'grunt' work.
On the other hand if I were a landowner in East Anglia why should I invest in plant machinery when HMG will allow me to import loadsa Eastern Europeans, will top up their wages when I pay them the minimum I can, and will clothe, house and feed them when my crops are not in season.
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
This one is worse than Carswell as he was never personally elected, as per usual no falling on the sword and losing a pay packet.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/06/conservative-defector-mark-reckless-quits-ukip-rejoins-tories/Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,920
UKIP locally putting up candidates don't recognise any of the names just seen as a protest party
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
The party was a one man party now he gone they have had it.But he should get into the house of Lords for the work he done for the UK as a EU member.
Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
- Posts: 395
All UKIP Councillors should resign and go.
They are not viable and have no party.
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
- Posts: 440
christine.a wrote:All UKIP Councillors should resign and go.
They are not viable and have no party.
You clearly don't like democracy.
Your second sentence is factually incorrect on both counts.
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