Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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I'm sure Rippers won't let us down Howard. He's a nice man & has never failed to register an opinion.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Now Mr Farage is no longer the leader ,for now anyway he might come back
we will see the party going backwards ,who do the public know well apart from Nigel? it is no one ,to follow Mr Farage as A talker the person needs to be very good.
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
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Paul,thank you for your kind words.I notice you weren't at the Referendum Count at Dover Town Hall.Cllr Eddy and his possee were there.They walked in, at start of the count wearing Labour rosettes .By the end of the count,they had removed the rosettes,when the vote was announced. Strange that.
In early April, I had an accident, I broke my right ankle in 2 places,which was operated on and now is secured with pins and a plate.My only political activity recently was on the 23rd June at Dover Town Hall Referendum Count .I was asked by VoteLeave to represent them as Designated Counting Agent. I and a team of 12 monitored the count on behalf of Vote Leave.Incidentally most of the team were members of other parties or non political people.A good team.Remain was represented by 2 LibDems including Antony Hook.2 Stronger In Tories.The rest of Remain Team were Labour including Clair Hawkins, Simon Bannister etc.It was noticeable that the LibDems /Tories/ Labour of Remain did not speak to each other.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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It was an unholy alliance Peter- Tories, Labour and the fringe parties trying to con us all as they like to be part of the establishment.
Sadly it seems to be a pyrrhic victory as most of us expect Article 50 won 't happen, the bookies have odds of 6/4 on it being invoked in 2018 or later or not all, so much for democracy.
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Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
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Paul.Just to add, to my previous comments.
DDC Officers lead by the calm efficient Mr Aziz.The Democratic Services Team lead by Louise,including Rebecca,Val,Mandy and vote counters were outstanding.
Please pass on my thanks.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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For a party advocating the advancement of democracy it’s not good to be exclude candidates.
It wasn’t just Mr Wolf that was stopped from running . Suzanne Evans was also excluder in a back room stich up. The party rules were apparently changed so she couldn’t run.
The N E C will probably be dismissed in a night of the long knives and Nigel and his sister will end up picking the candidate .
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Things are moving apace allies of Farage and Woolfe have the numbers to call an EGM the plan being that they sack the NEC and bring in candidates that have been excluded.
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
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Yesterday. A by-election took place in Ashford for Ashford Borough Council.,Beaver Ward.
UKIP 373
Labour 243
Tories 240
Turnout 21%
UKIP gain from Labour.
UKIP 42%
Labour 27.4%
Tories 27%
Corbyn surge continues?
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,259
In the interests of unbiase reporting :
Silverdale & Parksite (Newcastle under Lyme) result:
LAB: 56.4% (+19.5)
UKIP: 24.6% (-21.2)
CON: 11.3% (-0.4)
IND: 7.6% (+7.6)
Corbyn surge continues!
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Only 21% turn out very low but UKIP SUPPORT is still holding out.As for the other one which is a part of Stoke and I know it very well it was always going to be red.
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
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Reg. For Labour to win power in 2020.They must win seats in the South East,Home counties and Scotland because very soon there will be boundary changes.
They just cannot rely on Northern and Welsh seats.
My unbiased opinion of the Corbyn surge.
Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
- Posts: 393
For Labour to win power in 2020 they need a new leader who can win the middle ground. It's obvious but the Labour Party continues to be more intetested in playing sixth form common room politics.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Just pointing out that labour took a Ukip stronghold with over 20% gain directly from ukip whereas in ashford ukip took a labour seat with 11% gain but only 3% from Labour
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Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
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Reg.What was the turnout?
By elections are subject to local circumstances but the point about Labour's fortunes at the next general election which Paul M highlighted are still valid.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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About 22% I think without looking,. Right about Labour though with Corbyn at the helm they are unelectable.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Peter's right in that not too much notice should be taken of local council by-elections and not just due to low turnouts.
As there are no sitting councillors involved the candidates are largely unknown and if one of them has been active in getting a zebra/pelican crossing for example then he/she will do well irrespective of political colour.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Rather baffling that Steven Woolfe left his application to the last minute.
http://www.ukipdaily.com/statement-members-nec/howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Don't know yet how true this is but Carswell always looks out of place in the party and wishes that he had never jumped ship.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/23/arron-banks-ukip-mp-douglas-carswell-tories-defeat-nigel-farage-south-thanethoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I think they have made the right choice out of who is eligible.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37387162