Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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Alexander D wrote:
The last Statesman to make a speech from a Beer Hall was the Fuhrer.
See the picture in link ....
The only people to call him that were his followers, to anyone else the politest of the many terms used was Adolf Hitler.
Jan Higgins
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I always harboured suspicions about Alexander, could be that he ist sie master now?
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
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Howard,I hear you are star of facebook at the moment.Does that involves circuses?
Guest 1555- Registered: 23 Jul 2015
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When nearly 4,000,000 people voted for Ukip in the last General Election they may as well voted for the Conservatives. Cameron must indeed have been pleased that Ukip came along to split the vote. The voting system we have in this country is not democratic, nor is it fair, when you think those who vote Conservative have always voted Conservative. What UKIP did was to take the majority of Labour voters away from the Labour party. The voters who always sit on the fence; those who are mainly responsible for voting governments in, split their vote between the UKIP and the Conservatives. Hence we have a Conservative government in power and five more years of Austerity, mainly because the Labour Party under a mediocre leader had no force. Neither will they under the current crop of potential leaders, unless it is JEREMY CORBYN a man for the people. Mr Corbyn is known to be a fair and honourable man. Unlike his predecessors he does not lower himself to blatant criticism of his opponents, and has shown he is on the side of the working man and the public ownership of utilities and other past nationalised assets. WHAT he does not need in government are militant Unions who seem to strike and act, like spoilt children, when their exorbitant wage demands and leave requirements are not met. It is these greedy people who could scupper his chances. What is needed is a fair wage for a fair day's work. Also a fair vote of at least 40% or over of the membership before a strike is called. The public have suffered enough.
If the Labour electorate want to get anywhere they will need to turn out in bigger numbers at election times. And when they do, do not split the vote between the lesser parties, as then, their votes will count for nothing. The system we have at the moment will see to that. The Conservatives will vote in every election as that is the party of the wealthy, the not so wealthy, and the snobs. They see it as their duty to vote Conservative just as their fathers and grandfathers voted before them... They cannot see themselves as ordinary people, but above all others. What they have in common is that they all vote in elections for one party, whereas the people do not.
If the working man is too lazy or too apathetic to vote, or votes for a party that has no chance of getting into power, then they may as well not vote at all. But be aware there will never be a future for a working man's party unless working people do vote for the party that has their reasonable interests at heart...and vote in their millions. Nationalisation is good for Britain because the profits from publicly owned facilities can be put back into Britain to boost the NHS, the railways, and the nationalised Utilities, sold under Thatcher, and not go into the pockets of those privatised profiteers who will either take it out of the country as their own profit or invest it into offshore companies, banks, or tax havens, where it is lost to the country forever.
Make no mistake, the Blair and Brown's New-Labour government were no different from the Conservatives. The leaders were only in it for themselves, and are still only in it for themselves. The British people today are not the same as those who fought in the Second World War...the latter were made of sterner stuff. They do not have the same spirit or the willingness to fight for the values, which that brave generation believed in, or the values the working man should have by right. Even the media is different with its half-truths, blatant lies, and political affiliations, if and when it suits them.
How can the big banks own the land and the tax paying people be responsible for the losses those banks incur, except of course their CEOs, who never seem to lose. How can each and every citizen of Greece owe a debt of €30.000 to their creditors, unless it was gross or even criminal mismanagement by a corrupt government, before the last one was elected? The last government in Greece had no choice but to resign. I still believe the banks were behind that fiasco too? The European Union is not and never has been good for the British people. All that will happen is that the poorer nationals will migrate to the richer nations and destabilise them accepting wages lower than the basic British standard. Britain was brought up without Austerity. Most of the new European Union members were brought up to live on their wits and that alone will stimulate the 'Black economy to a criminal level.' All to the decrement of the British worker who has always been used to a decent living wage by law. In all fairness the basic wages of all member countries in the Union should be on par with the countries their citizens want to migrate to, before they are allowed to migrate.
I will never forgive this government for bilking the taxpayer out of billions of pounds in bailing the banks out and then selling publicly owned assets and bailed out banks back to the investors for what amounts to a huge profit for those who bought them back and a huge loss for the people who pay the taxes. Sometimes I wonder how many politicians jumped on the band wagon at such an opportunity. Something we the people will never know because the public never insist on asking for more transparency...is that how apathetic we have become?
Being old is not so bad for me. At least I will not be around when Britain is nothing more than an insignificant island owned by people who do not deserve to own, or to govern it. Administered by people who seem to be in it for themselves... Maybe that's what we deserve for being so complacent when it comes to seeking a good life for all and not just for the favoured few... Will our Britain ever change for the better? At this time I very much doubt it. They say a pessimist can always see the truth; an optimist has to suffer before it is revealed to them.
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I have been in Dover since coming over from India in 1947 when all the British nationals had to leave. I went to St Mary's School in Queen Steet Dover, which no longer exists. I do not like the changes being done to the Dover seafront by people who do not really have the town's people at heart. I used to play in the rock pools with my twin brother under the prince of Wales Pier and had my first job in Dover painting the wrought iron legs, which are now filled in with concrete.
I feel a sense of loss at what The Dover Harbour board is contemplating. If the Yacht Marina is moved out of the inner harbour and into the bay it will become just another rubbish dump. It is obvious that big business is moving in against the wishes of the Dover people.
I worked at the Dover Harbour Board for thirteen years on the small boats before I retired in 2003 as a survey and environmental cox'n. The last ten yearssurveying the bottom of the harbour and its approaches. I know the tides and the bottom better than my own hand...and a lot of silt moving out there. If they fill the Granville Docks in, where I used to help unload fruit boats in the good old days. It will just become another huge lorry park in the future.
I also think the small boats are open to abuse by the swarms of immigrants coming over from France and further afield. With fewer customs, once the immigrants twig there is another way in they will take it. I have been to sea in three Merchant Navies since 1959 and have always believed Britain, being an island should have had a container fleet Merchant Navy manned by british sailors, the best in the world, trading with its Commonwealth. The Greek fiasco has proved the politicians cannot be trusted,nor the big Banks, to have any intrest in the working people of Britain, only in themselves... Who owns the town, is it business interests in Europe, the Harbour Board, or is there a hidden agenda. What is the plan for the Western approaches from Shakespeare Cliff to the Admiralty pier. QUESTIONS have to be asked and honest ANSWERS given. Already European countries have huge interests in our utilities and other, used to be publicily owned, businesses. We may as well not had a war, not when we are being slowly taken over by foreign interests. Britain was once a country to be proud of and brave people defended its honour and died for it. I am seventy-seven years old now and retired. I still remember the gaps left in the high street by German bombers, and those Dover people whomust have lost their lives there. Just what did my father and those brave people fight for? I had the honour of sailing with two or three merchant seamen in the fifties and sixties, who had actually been in the water a number of times after being torpedoed. Over fifty thousand seamen died and thousands of our Navy, Airmen, and Army died for our freedom. Will the young remember them when those left are gone. I no longer free free any more, only a sense of foreboding for our younger generation.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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They had a lot of rejects from other parties elected as councillors last time out and they will carry on in a way that suits them personally.I think the party will disappear without trace by 2020.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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I have to disagree with you on that Howard, it'll leave a scummy tide mark that will take years to eradicate!!!
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Brian Dixon
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try some cif then reg.....
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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A racist website for a racist party, they're desperate to garner support in any way they can, and if you don't agree they haven't the wherewithal to have an educated debate about it, primarily due to the lack of educated party members, enjoy the show while they're still around.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The actual article says nothing of the sort about Jeremy Corbyn but the headline sends a different message and is designed to appeal to those that are taken in easily and whoever edits the Facebook page plays on it.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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The old get out of jail "Allegedly" followed by we can't reveal our sources, normal ukip lies and scaremongering!
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