- Captain Haddock - Location: Marlinspike Hall
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 - Guest 3270 likes this - "The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
 
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- Brian Dixon - Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
 
 - counting chickens before eggs are laid me thinks. 
- Brian Dixon - Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
 
 - so we now know who is the phantom milkshake thrower is,.. bob. 
- Guest 3270- Registered: 23 May 2019
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 -  Captain Haddock wrote:- Sorted. 
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Nice GIG list :D :D :D I didnt figure out who are the gropus, singers, djs participating in them but... any way its free probably will go there to [U]checkout[/U] too :D :D :D Party YEY    
- Keith Sansum1 - Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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 - So, even if Brexit  party wins a few seats 
 Then we leave
 Then I presume all these seats are given up?
 
 Brexit  party then had to decide where it goes next
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- Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
 
 - #45 
 Job  done depending on terms.
 
- Jan Higgins - Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,922
 
 -  Keith Sansum1 wrote:- So, even if Brexit  party wins a few seats 
 Then we leave
 Then I presume all these seats are given up?
 
 Brexit  party then had to decide where it goes next
 
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I suspect as we will not be entitled to be there our MEPs will be defunct as will the Brexit party, job done I hope. 
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- Ross Miller - Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
 
 - If we do end up leaving the EU then we are NOT entitled to seats in the European Parliament, so all the MEPs elected today lose their seats on the day we officially cease to be members; also if we leave before 26th May 2020 then they will not be entitled to a severance payment or EU pension.  
 
 As to what happens to the likes of UKIP The Brexit Party and Farage at that point we will need to wait and see, but knowing how egotistical, needy and attention seeking Farage is he may linger like the proverbial bad smell.
 - "Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean 
 
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 While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
 
- Keith Sansum1 - Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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 - We will I'm sure leave
 But with what conditions will likely keep Farage  going for years to come
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- Brian Dixon - Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
 
 - keith, in no concrete garaunte  that we will be leaving.the deal is all up in the air at the moment.
 
 as farage and co, including ukip probably end up in macdonalds for a big mac and a milkshake
 
- Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
- Posts: 350
 
 - We should have already gone. But when we do finally go then Farage will be finished and someone will emerge as a populist remainer. 
 
 It is very easy to take the masses with you when you are solely focused on one objective and not hindered by policies. Even as a Brexiteer I realise that the EU will divide our country for the best part of this century. Over the past three years there has been no attempt to reconcile both sides, the divisiveness has got more extreme.
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- Keith Sansum1 - Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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 - Brian 
 Obviously you are blinkered because youngish to remain
 
 In reality we will go
 Probably with a poor deal because of the lack of leadership over past 3years
 And a poor opposition
 
 Farage  will remain because of all the divisions
 
 Not much is done.  In the interest of UK residents
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- Ross Miller - Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
 
 - Oh FFS the deal we have been offered, as opposed to the political declaration, is the only deal in town. 
 
 In the absence of any political leadership our civil servants have got the best deal possible from the EU to leave.
 
 There is no better deal available.
 
 Once we officially leave, we can then start to negotiate not only trade deals with others, but also our future relationship with the EU, maybe this is the deal everyone is talking about, or maybe they are still living in the past when the sun never set on Empire and we enjoyed living off the backs of others and think because we are pretty miffed the EU will wilt and give us anything and everything.
 - Button likes this - "Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean 
 
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 While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
 
- Brian Dixon - Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
 
 - keith, I am neither youngish or blinkerd in my views.
 
 there is no real deal to worry about, only a hash up. the only sensible soloution is revoking article 50, get a prime minister who is bloody minded enough to get on with proper negosations.
 
- Keith Sansum1 - Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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 - Worries here 
 I agree again with Ross
 
 Brian
 People's vote mean anything ?
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- Jan Higgins - Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,922
 
 - Maybe we should have started the whole thing with cross party discussions and then told the EU our demands rather than giving in to their demands from the start. - -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Brian Dixon - Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
 
 - nope keith, lets have another vote then. 
- Keith Sansum1 - Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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 - keep voting  till remain wins brian? - ALL  POSTS        ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS 
- Brian Dixon - Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
 
 - another vote but with the truth spoken before hand, not lies and bullshine like before. 
- Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,299
 
 - Button is quite right. The deal we have been offered, is as good as it gets. As we have always said, the Ireland border issue is simply insurmountable - once we leave, it represents the EU's outer border with a third country. That is the undeniable truth. No amount of jumping up and down, chest thumping, tea drinking and keeping calm and carrying on will change that.