Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Couple of points
With regards to Jan's comments on Boris brother he made a passionate speech on why he couldn't support his brother
The latest turn around is only adding to the confusion on who is the official candidate
And looking at Kent on line Charlie's still indicating he's standing
But not if he's a tory candidate (which he can't do under his own party rules)
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Button- Location: Dover
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So it's goodbye Edmund Hall, one assumes; another one bites the dust?!
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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General election: Farage says Brexit party will not stand in 317 Tory seats!
New Year's Honours - arise Lord Farage of Middle England!
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Farage, he's such a doll. But matryoshka, or papier mâché? The 'clean break' was just another skin after all. Beneath that there's always been blue. And beneath that? '...if I tried I could poke my forefinger through him, and would find nothing inside but a little loose dirt, maybe.' No surprises: a hollow man.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Neil Moors wrote:And while I'm at it - he is trying to derail Brexit in plain sight. Trying to dilute the Tory vote. He knows it won't be successful, so is better placed to always be the eternal victim. If he can only stop it from happening, he can always claim it would have been the answer...
He's going about it in a very strange way, but you know best Neil!
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:
New Year's Honours - arise Lord Farage of Middle England!
That would make Trump happy as Farage seems to be his best friend (at the moment), therefore he will probably boast it was all his idea.
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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Trump thinks we should leave the EU. Dim as he is, he must see that BP candidates everywhere will dilute the pro-Brexit vote. Not impossible then that Boris has told Trump to lean on his mate Nigel..........
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Did I miss Mr Johnson tearing up his 'not really Brexit' deal, or is it being kept very quiet?
And of course the real reason why the report about Russian skulduggery has not been made public is because it says that nice Mr Putin spotted that the Brits were quite capable of sodding things up all by themselves without any help from him, which hardly reflects well on anyone. Except Uncle Vlad.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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It's always about him - whatever he has cooked up, there's something in it for him.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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So, given that all the major parties are offering or supporting competing versions of Remain (Revoke A50, Referendum2, Tory Brexit) where does that leave a Leaver's vote? Isn't it just a bit chilling (but not a little predictable) that the various establishments have joined ranks to disenfranchise the 52%?
I suppose the moral of the story is never accept a cigar from the pub politico; it'll likely explode in your face.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Weird
its tragic for the electorate who have lost faith with most politicians
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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it will all end in tears, farage and Johnson will in the lonely back waters or a room each in the tower.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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The popular view appears to be that while it's difficult to predict the outcome of this decision, it isn't likely to make too much difference. Just reading about all the prospective Brexit MPs who have been let down by Farage. I see the Brexit party going into quite a downward spiral now - it started with Farage not bothering, now this, what next? And if he is now happy with the deal - then follow the logic through and pull out of every seat, surely?
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Farage and strategy don't get on. Now he's become an indentured servant to the Tories he'll be waiting on what Cummings requires of him.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Neil Moors wrote:And if he is now happy with the deal - then follow the logic through and pull out of every seat, surely?
He still wants to be in the headlines so he will never do that.
He thinks he can get seats in some of the Labour strongholds where the Conservatives have no chance, I think the best he will do is maybe lower the Labour majority.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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or increace it. swings and roundabouts.
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Labour Party spokesman this was a “sophisticated and large scale cyber attack” on our digital platforms.
Cyber security expert "The important thing to know about this is this is not an extremely cunning, sophisticated kind of attack - it's crude, it's brute force, it's actually quite easy to do."
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Seems the people giving the information know about as much as I do on the subject.
"A Labour source said that attacks came from computers in Russia and Brazil but the BBC's Gordon Corera has been told the attack was not linked to a state.
Our security correspondent said he had been told the attack was a low-level incident - not a large scale and sophisticated attack - and the National Cyber Security Centre did not need to take any action as it had been resolved."
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Now, now, RB, that's somewhat lifting the quote from Sky's Technology Correspondent out of context (the context being Twitter) in order to suggest a Labour song and dance over not very much. But Mr Manthorpe also wrote: 'a cyber attack on a political party during an election deserves to [be] taken seriously - just as Labour did. Good to see.' He also quoted a Labour source as reporting that the attack came from 'a botnet with IPs on every continent'. But as I don't yet know a botnet from a hairnet, I'll carry on reading the good Rowland until I do.
The rather sniffy Gordon Corera, the BBC's 'security correspondent' (
), who 'has been told' (though by whom he's not sharing: he's 'in the know' you know), is referring to the NCSC's classification of cyber threats. Again, according to Manthorpe: 'NCSC only cover the tiniest tip of a massive iceberg. Just because they don't classify it as Category 6 [i.e. the lowest level] doesn't mean it wasn't serious.'
And Manthorpe's latest is: 'If this cyber attack was a test, Labour and the government basically passed. The people who failed are all the clowns on here spreading rumours and misinformation.'
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