Keith Sansum1
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Brian
Are you not looking at labour
Expelling anyone that doesn't agree with Starmer
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Brian Dixon
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keith, they are corbynites, good riddance to bad rubbish.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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So, at last Brian you admit Labour is tearing itself apart .
If you were aware of the working within labour the corbynite like them or not are the ones who will canvass , door knock etc
The middle England don't
.
So the very people you want to reach won't be reached .
Like labour , you expect s majority to just switch from Tory or non voting to labour .
Problem with that thinking is that people have a number of other parties so some will vote against the main two parties
TAKING VOTES FROM LABOUR
Some are fed up of all politicians
TAKING VOTES FROM LABOUR
Up north labour has to win these seats backs in traditional labour areas , some will come back, but some won't .
TAKING VOTES FROM LABOUR
Got to win seats in Scotland which is unlikely
TAKING VOTES FROM LABOUR
Got to win seats in Wales also unlikely
TAKING SEATS FROM LABOUR
So to hold on to this , the Tories will lose and everyone will only vote labour is a dangerous way to be disappointed , thus why labour will be out so long
Like all parties labour stopped regular contact with the electorate , and seen now as irrelevant as the other parties.
Just turning up at election time is not enough ,
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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And then the boundary changes which predicted labour to lose 15 more seats
It's all a lost cause Brian
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Weird Granny Slater
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I'm now very confused. Is Sir Keir to be the next leader of the Conservative Party or not?
Brian Dixon and Button like this
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Button
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:I'm now very confused. Is Sir Keir to be the next leader of the Conservative Party or not?
I thought you said that one couldn't even slip a communion water between the two brands?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Now that Laughing Boy has finally donned his 'big boy pants' (with a little nudging from his fiancee) and shown the odious Cummings the door, I can do no better that copy the reflections of a person of some sense and judgment.
Professor Chris Grey reflects on Dominic Cummings' departure and what it means for Brexit:
"Johnson is Johnson, and bears a heavy responsibility for Brexit. But it shouldn’t be forgotten that he was one of many leading Brexiters who, orchestrated by Dominic Cummings, cajoled voters into leaving the EU without knowing or caring about what happened to Northern Ireland, to the GFA, and certainly to Ireland. For that matter, they didn’t know or care what Brexit meant for everything from creating customs arrangements to disrupting medical supplies to road haulage (£) to musicians’ tours to financial services (£) to data transfer, police and judicial cooperation to the millions of lives left in limbo, and so much else besides. They didn’t know or care at the time of the Referendum and, for the most part, they haven’t bothered to find out since. Worse, throughout all these years they have vilified and belittled those who did know and care.
"So as Brexit limps on, the unloved orphan of a failing populism, to some kind of resolution of at least what the end of the transition period will mean, we shouldn’t forget the lies shamelessly told, the promises blithely made, and the fears viciously propagated which have brought us to this shambolic point."
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Button wrote:I thought you said that one couldn't even slip a communion water between the two brands?
Quite. It's why I asked. They share much of the important stuff, like thick hair and tailored suits. But the trivial similarities matter too, like a dodgy past that includes briefing against party leaders, an exemplary attachment to the Peter principle, an ideology of increasing state control over the individual, a loathing of working-class folk, and a tendency to hitch a lift with any colourful passing bandwagon.
btw 'wafer', surely? Or has church cost-cutting reached that far? (Of course, that's all hypothetical since the government nationalised God and banned worship.)
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Button- Location: Dover
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Damned predictive texting (and failure to proof-read!)!
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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keith, momentum all so failled to take over.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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wgs, NO
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Your missing the point Brian
Or many points
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon wrote:they are corbynites, good riddance to bad rubbish.
Keep up, BD, there are many routes to political power and influence, and some of that 'bad rubbish' is actually now responsible for advising on government policy.
Take Susan Michie: Professor of Health Psychology at UCL (also director of the Centre for Behaviour Change there), member of the Covid-19 Behavioural Science Advisory Group, the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviours (a sub-group of SAGE), and Independent SAGE. Her work involves 'developing methodologies for designing and evaluating theoy-based interventions to change behaviour'.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Michie
She's also a member of the Communist Party of Britain, donated £14,000 to the Labour Party in 2017, and campaigned for her comrades to work for a Corbyn-led Labour government. I'm sure I don't know why all this info (and more on her wealthy background and family links to the Labour leadership) was very important when the press was trying to link Corbyn to marxists during an election campaign but is never mentioned now she's all over broadcast and print media telling us what to do.
The ballot box is
so yesterday.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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It's like the guy in dad's army said .. .
" We are all doomed capt mannering "
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