Captain Haddock
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We are living in strange times indeed.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
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If that poll was/is accurate then it would show that the Tories peaked perfectly for the 2017 GE. Whilst it favours Labour, and I am somewhat partisan, it needs taking with a generous pinch of salt.
The wider debate should be, in my opinion, that the 2017 GE was the first time since many people's lifetime that the elite weren't competing for power with another version of the elite (like Schumpeter's 1940s Competitive Elite model); it was the first time in which the elite were genuinely rivaled by a credible alternative. Let's not forget that the Labour Party manifesto was built by the members and relevant stakeholder unions/affiliates and not done to them. Oh, it was the only costed manifesto too.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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The Bishop wrote:
Oh, it was the only costed manifesto too.
That was all reading so well and you couldn't resist it could you?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
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Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Or putting it more bluntly.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
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That's very early for a Murdoch press tailspin panic. Whilst I lament the demise of quality journalism (though I would never put The S*n in that bracket in the first place), isn't it good to see the self-appointed elite being challenged? At last, we have a situation where the House of Commons can be filled with people that meet the criteria of being 'common' (i.e. the people and NOT the unopposed 'elites'). Canterbury's Julian Brazier had an air of job for life then along comes a re-galvinised local Labour party with active members all working to change the most historically Tory seat in Kent for the better. They appoint a parliamentary candidate from the people, a Teaching Assistant, Rosie Duffield. It is little wonder that the billionaire non-domicile press barons are concerned.
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Reginald Barrington
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Can you substantiate Your claim that the change in Canterbury is for the better or is that just a politically biased opinion?
Arte et Marte
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Reginald Barrington wrote:Can you substantiate Your claim that the change in Canterbury is for the better or is that just a politically biased opinion?
Both! However, you are right...the proof will be in the pudding. In the meantime, the significant swing (20.5%) in favour of Labour despite marginal increase in vote (1.8% improvement) for the Tory status quo shows that people wanted better.
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Jan Higgins
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There is a saying that might be applicable here but I doubt we will not know how true until the next General Election.
A change is as good as a rest.
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Brian Dixon
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a election at any time now. sooner the better.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Do you think Labour would get a majority Brian?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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who knows howard.
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Arte et Marte
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Jezza comes THIRD in two horse race!
Poll YouGov/Times
Theresa May now has a 9% lead over Corbyn in preference for PM:
37% - May
28% - Corbyn
35% - Don't know
Field work 10/11 December 2017
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Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The field work was done straight after the PM was being feted in the media for her handling of talks with the EU. Once all that unravels so will her lead.
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The same pollsters gave the Tories a one point lead over Labour at the same time but having checked with the bookies just now Labour remain slight favourites to have most seats at the next General Election.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Shrewd of Jezza to move the focus away from Brexit as he and his party don't really know what they want yet.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/13/corbyn-attacks-disgrace-homelessness-ignores-brexit-pmqsCaptain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Jezza speaks:-
https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/jeremy-corbyn-interview-exclusive/
And on allegations of sexual harassment? 'We support the people making them as well as the people being alleged against.’
I suppose that's a bit like Labour support those in favour of Brexit as well as those opposed to Brexit?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Corbyn's achievements this year: -
Lost the General Election -
Undermined the Brexit process -
Gained some followers on Twitter
May's achievements this year: -
Successfully negotiating Brexit -
Lowest unemployment in 40 years -
Standing up for Britain on the world stage
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
