Weird Granny Slater
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JB, re Lord P. The video's simply a recruiting address for TR. If you know your C20th history you'll recognise a pattern here. Capital identifies stooge to bring the workers onside and do the dirty business (disrupting meetings, invading bookshops just for a start), demonizes an enemy to provide focus, makes propaganda an art form, gains power, introduces 'emergency' measures, enthrals the workers, bigs up the military, police and 'security', and as sure as Bob's your Uncle (or Big's your Brother) big money's safe again. If he doesn't watch his back TR'll go the same way as Ernst Röhm.
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John Buckley
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#42
Pablo.........Abrogation?
Granny.....I believe Lord P. to be an honourable man, unlike many that sit in that house just to collect their cash and that he has genuine concerns about the future of our country. The mention of Tommy Robinson formed only I believe a very small part of what Lord P’s overall message was, although as you rightly say he was obviously offering him his support.
However, let me ask you a very simple question if I may? Do you personally believe that, in time and how ever long it takes, and that when we are the minority in our own country then we will still retain our existing laws and freedoms that are in place today?
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#43
At the 2011 census muslims formed 4. 4% of the population of the UK and most recent estimates hover around 5. 5% so it will be a long time before they form a majority.
Jan Higgins
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:At the 2011 census muslims formed 4. 4% of the population of the UK and most recent estimates hover around 5. 5% so it will be a long time before they form a majority.
Following on from Howard's comment, I wonder how many of that figure are practicing their faith, when I filled in the last form I put C of E as that is what I have always put being completely non religious.
Thank goodness the vast majority of followers of Islam are not fanatics and are ordinary people like the rest of us and do not practice the extremes that
all faiths have in one way or another.
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Jan Higgins wrote:Following on from Howard's comment, I wonder how many of that figure are practicing their faith, when I filled in the last form I put C of E as that is what I have always put being completely non religious.
Thank goodness the vast majority of followers of Islam are not fanatics and are ordinary people like the rest of us and do not practice the extremes that all faiths have in one way or another.
Yes, you’re right Jan, it is fortunate that the vast majority are not fanatics otherwise the number of Islamic terrorist attacks would be even greater.........almost 340,000 since 9/11.
Suppose we should be grateful for small mercies eh?
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:At the 2011 census muslims formed 4. 4% of the population of the UK and most recent estimates hover around 5. 5% so it will be a long time before they form a majority.
Yes, you’re correct Howard, but nobody is saying that the changes that I eventually fear will happen overnight, of course they won’t.
But without particularly wishing to labour the point ( we’ve all got a life to live! ) it should be considered that they don’t actually have to outnumber us completely as such to gain political power.
A. Because they will have high numbers in certain concentrated areas and B. because they will all be “instructed” to vote whereas our own people are generally apathetic when it comes to bothering about the ballot box.
Anyway, just a thought, and if world war three happens to come along then I daresay that would sort the problem out once and for all!
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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#47
JB, for me it's clear the Islamic business was simply laying the groundwork for the TR appeal later. Lord P's personal honour or otherwise doesn't concern me, but he (and the building he sits in) represents an idea of England that's anathema to me: privilege, hierarchy, aristocracy, landed wealth (you name it) and the whole legal, judicial, governmental and linguistic edifice constructed to impose, support and defend it since the Norman bastard landed at Pevensey 952 years ago. Which leads on to your question (and I think you can see which way my answer's going). So, not wishing to complicate matters further, I'll leave aside such questions as who 'we' are or in what sense it is any longer 'our country' when a tiny 0.6% of us own 100% of the UK's land (rest assured, though, that both of us and all other forum members are together in the 99.4% who own none of it), and just say that if those 'existing laws' are the ones that prop up that unequal status quo then I'd be glad to be rid of them. Any threats to whatever freedoms we're still allowed to have come from globalist ideologies, economic 'trickle-down' fantasists, financial elites, big statists, neocon military expeditionists, and their political and administrative servants. Insofar as radical expansionist Islam is in the first category, then I'm agin that too.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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#48
If you put it like that granny who am I to argue?
Whilst I may not agree with everything you mention, I do have to say that nevertheless I genuinely admire the obvious passion and conviction of your beliefs.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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#49
John Buckley wrote:Whilst I may not agree with everything you mention...
What? We'll discuss that at the barricades.
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#50
and in the meantime keep looking the other way, at all the rapes and murders Mr Weierd
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#51
Which rapes and murders would they be, KB? I think we have laws to cover such criminal offences.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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#52
Baroness Warsi claims the Tories are 'institutionally Islamophobic' and 'turning a blind eye' to it. However, in a robust defence, the blind eye claims to have 'never come across' it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47454993'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock
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#53
The dreadful Peter Lamb's comments being:-
"Islam like alcoholism [sic]. The first step to recovery is admit you have a problem." (True)
"Turkey buys oil from ISIS. Muslims sticking together," (Arguable though hardly offensive)
"Do they want us to call ISIS Daesh now so that we don't associate them with Islam?" (Definitely true but to be PC he should have put 'radical' in before Islam for some reason)
Get a grip people.
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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#54
We can all find derogatory comments on any subject if we have an axe to grind or go looking for them or are simply interested in a subject whatever the reason.
I am old and fat so could claim all political parties as well as the media are commenting about me and others.
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Brian Dixon
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#55
no jan your not old and fat, your a slim ,young 21 year old.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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bo jo mark 2. lol