howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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As I posted elsewhere:-
Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006
"Nothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system."
If you’re pathetic enough, you really can be offended by anything.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The next issue will be those signs outside public lavatories.
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Post 2: no, they shouldn't. Men have trouble with umbrellas, women don't. The signs reflect reality.
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Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I expect it is true, as all parties have those that for whatever reason dislike a doctrine, religion or race, it might not be right but it is human nature.
Those affected might be small in number but the publicity makes good fodder for those with a grudge.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Looks like this will hit the Tories like the anti-Semitism accusations hanging over Labour.
Could be interesting. If they are not careful the Tories will find themselves bounced by the left in to a
mixture of show trials, Thought Police and re-education camps.
Personally (and I speak as both a Zionist and a member of the Conservative Friends of Israel) I thought Ken was badly treated by Labour when rather stupid and historically questionable statements he made were interpreted as anti-Semitism.
As I've said before, it would be a massive act of self-delusion if we denied the fact that it is mainly the followers of a particular religion who have a predilection for blowing up tube trains and children attending concerts, lopping off their daughter's genitals, the mass sexual abuse of schoolchildren in some northern towns and shouting Allahu Akbar and it sure ain't the Quakers.
Nationwide it would appear that Labour are trawling through anything that anyone has ever said or written or even has thought to have said or written and shouting 'Miss, Miss, I think Johnny said a rude word, can we stop him standing for Form Prefect'. Social Media is being weaponised as I type.
Like it or not our American friends saw though this and voted for someone whose policies they agreed with rather than someone they would trust to run their daughter home but over here our betters and masters don't think like that. It's not what you do but how 'right on' what you do is seen to be.
Hence you can't watch old episodes of Roseanne (Boo! Hiss! Hiss!) on Netflix because she said some hurtey words but you can watch that loveable Bill Cosby who only drugged and raped women!
Funny old world! (Except it isn't any more as even jokes are in the firing line). Just timed myself. Three minutes to write above and best part of ten minutes self-censoring to check that nothing above could be misinterpreted. Je ne suis pas Charlie anymore. They've got to me too.......
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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As a point of order, Capt, regarding your insinuation regarding Muslims "lopping off their daughter's genitals" : FGM is practiced among some adherents of the Muslim, Christian, and Jewish faiths. FGM is also practiced among some animists, who believe in the existence of individual spirits and supernatural forces. It is erroneously linked to religion, is not particular to any religious faith, and predates Christianity and Islam. Source: Human Rights Watch
You checked for misinterpretation, dear boy, but it would seem you didn't check for misappropriation.
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Incidentally, Captain, are you a 'friend' of any other country? (By which I mean there are more countries around the world than just ours and Israel.) Do you have a membership or affiliation to any other Friends of <insert forgein country/ies>?
Furthermore, what motivated you to join the Conservative Friends of Israel? And finally, have you enjoyed a subsidised trip to Israel through this affiliation?
Personally, I have issues with the Israeli government's conduct but I do NOT object to its right to exist as a country.
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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I think the Capt. is correct in what he has said Bish.
He insinuated that it was “mainly” (not only) Muslims involved in the practice of FGM, that has to be correct surely?
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Hence the use of the word 'mainly'. It is mainly practised by Mohammedans. Period.
Unfortunately 'Human Rights Watch' is another of these lefty pressure groups trying to insist that the world is not as the evidence in front of us shows and that, in essence, anything the West does is A BAD THING.
Just look at their web-page.
https://www.hrw.org/
Abortion in Ireland, Gender Neutral Holland, Face Veils in Denmark, CIA Torture and Sodding Greenpeace. These are apparently the most pressing 'human rights issues' today. F**K off!
Meanwhile there's tens of thousands being killed out there but not to worry because some bloke with a beard can't use the ladies loo at Schipol Airport.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Here's an example of what we've allowed ourselves to become - from the sainted Rod:-
I have worked for publications owned by Conrad Black, the Guardian’s arch-Satan Rupert Murdoch, and the Barclay brothers. I have also worked for Polly’s pristine conduit — and I can tell you that when it comes to political interference in copy, the only place I’ve had even the remotest problem, in 15 years, was the Guardian. Not a huge problem, I admit — they stopped me using the word ‘monkey’ to describe someone who was behaving like a monkey, jabbering, being mischievous. They said it was racist. I said well, OK, but the man I’m talking about is white. They said yes, but people might think he’s black. The following week I described someone as being a wolverine — they cut that out too. They said a wolverine was a kind of ape and was therefore racist. I said no, a wolverine is a sort of large, ferocious weasel. And they said yes, but someone might think that it’s a kind of ape, and therefore racist.
Please race on towards us blessed meteorite and put us out of our stupidity ..............
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Mr Buckley, on an
Islam vs another religion basis FGM is prevalent in some followers of Islam but on an
Islam vs all other religions basis it is not true. This fact is available here (see the two charts in particular)...
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/02/female-genital-mutilation-not-uniquely-muslim-problem/ Interestingly, the 2nd graph identifies three 'religions', these being Muslim, Catholics and Other Christians. Now Catholics
are Christians (I'll have you know) so just add those two together and compare them to Muslims. Bear in mind that these are predominately countries of the African sahel and you'll note that FGM is actually much more of a cultural issue rather than a specifically religious one.
It is also important to note that while FGM is practiced in Egypt, which is predominantly Muslim, it is not practiced in many other countries with predominantly Muslim populations, such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. The association of FGM with Islam has been refuted by many Muslim scholars and theologians who say that FGM is not prescribed in the Qu'ran and is contradictory to the teachings of Islam. Source of this paragraph: Human Rights Watch [with some truncating for brevity].
I accept your point about "mainly", however, the above should prove the Captain's misconception false - it isn't "mainly" an Islamic problem.
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And Capt. Care to clear up my queries from post #10?
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Yeah . And for some reason they blow up very few tube trains in the African sahel so that's another myth put to bed? I really can't be bothered to enter another of your number of angels on pinheads debate when, as ever, you wade in like a latter day 'Professor' Joad with 'It all depends what you mean by pinhead'.
If I suggested that women were worse drivers than men it would only be moments before you cited the almost accident free record of women drivers in Saudi Arabia. As for 'Northern Towns' - I take it you've seen the statistics for Anchorage, Reykjavik and Murmansk?
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:Hence the use of the word 'mainly'. It is mainly practised by Mohammedans. Period.
Much the same as circumcision for men is mainly practiced by the Jewish and Muslim faiths which is also a form of genital mutilation although probably not as abhorrent to most as FGM.
I think both practices are completely wrong unless on genuine medical grounds but I do not belong to or support any faith so have no axe to grind.
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Free bagels.
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Take your point Bish, but I assume that in his post the Capt. is referring to Muslim activities in this country, so in that context I would deem his assertions to well founded.
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John Buckley wrote:Take your point Bish, but I assume that in his post the Capt. is referring to Muslim activities in this country, so in that context I would deem his assertions to well founded.
Correctamundo John. Not too difficult to work out was it. (Let's hope the Zappa link still works when the usual suspects send of today's screen shots! Theresa could do with a laugh!)
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