Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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Very true Howard, some people on here think doctors are robots on call 24/7, thank god they are not anymore.
As for the cap on visiting this is already happening and been so since out of hours was outsourced. The doctor on call decides whether a visit is necessary,more often than not, violent toothache, needing a prescription, severely drunk or a whole list of time wasting ailments do not justify a visit.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,894
Most GPs work a maximum 5 days a week and as Howard says 9 till 5 so no longer than the average worker, hospital doctors are the ones who work long hours.
With large group practices I am sure that they could work a rota between several different practices to do the occasional night duty with the next day off rather than pay big money to South East Health, the truth is GPs do not want to do night calls.
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Opposition response............
This is what three years of David Cameron running the NHS looks like: a crisis in A&E, patients
waiting in the back of ambulances and over 4000 nurses lost. He has broken all of his promises
on the NHS and patients are paying the price.
We can't trust David Cameron with the NHS. Share this with your friends if the damage David Cameron
is doing to our health service frightens you as much as it does me.
Today I met with health professionals at an emergency summit on this crisis in major A&Es - they want
this crisis fixed. But as we approach the National Health Service's 65th anniversary, only Labour has
plans to protect and strengthen our NHS for the future.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
well dave1 some interesting comments
Reg
im willing to accept the mouse is happy to see the NHS go down the swanny
but labour didn't do that well whilst in power for the NHS
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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NHS waiting times getting longer due to cuts, health chiefs warn
NHS Confederation report says 64% of senior officials believe £20bn of 'efficiency savings' will
worsen patient experience
The NHS in England has been increasingly delaying or denying patients access to operations such
as knee replacements to help them cope with budget shortfalls.
Waiting times for treatment and the rationing of care have worsened and will get worse still because of
the NHS's £20bn savings drive, health service bosses have warned.
Seven in 10 chief executives and chairs of hospital trusts, clinical commissioning groups and other NHS
care providers fear that the length of time patients have to wait for treatment and their ability to obtain it will
be hit hard in the coming year
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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does anyone know the difference between efficiency savings and cuts?
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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The answer is in #1285, get rid of
chief executives and chairs of hospital trusts, clinical commissioning groups
and spend the money on frontline services.
That to me is an efficiency cut
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Apologies, efficiency saving
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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I do Howard, you make cuts to save efficiency.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Lesley, you're up on this sort of thing, what on earth is a clinical commissioning group?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think they are the people who decide what services are required and buy them in.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Reg is your man for that information David. My understanding is that by fragmenting services and delegating responsibility to various "service provision and commissioning groups" the decisions on spending and the monies available can be better monitered. In practice, it dont' work!
Another layer of burocracy is created, time wasted on self congratulatory meeting and overall management is lost.
One of the best consultants in this area is due to retire, I worked with him to raise awareness of the gaping holes in local maternity services. He is the most honest and direct man I have ever met, respected by both managers and nursing staff, believing in cutting thro' the cr*p and dealing with those delivering the service directly.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Excellent post Lesley, I agree wholeheartedly.
Job creation, self preservation, meetings to arrange meetings, targets for the sake of targets, jargon and re-branding.
Unless anybody on here can correct me HNS spending isn't being cut at all, its simply being wasted
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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it's been like that as far back as i can remember, add to lesley's post the problem of health secretarys wanting to make their mark by introducing something new and in most cases useless.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 1292....Spot on Lesley....GP Commissioners took over responsibility of the health services we will receive
from the Primary Care Trust who held many,many public consultation meetings and never listened to anything said
by the public.The GP Commission appear to be going the same way especially where `step down beds`for our `hospital`
is concerned they are passing the buck to Social Services......still campaigning on that issue............
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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ican go some way to agree with post 1287
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Independent.............
A&E waits at nine-year high: 300,000 clocking up over four hours between January and March
Waits before being admitted from A&E into hospital - so-called trolley waits - of more than four hours,
have also risen to almost 7 per cent, the highest level since 2004
More than 300,000 patients had to wait for over four hours in A&E between January and March as Britain's
emergency health services continued to show the strain from ever-increasing demand.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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I thought things were improving???
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
they are kieth,the que's are getting longer.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
interesting article, the question is why the sharp rise in numbers of people going to their local a & e.
http://news.sky.com/story/1099033/a-and-e-waiting-times-reach-nine-year-high
